"Bob" wrote in message
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How about digging the trench, laying plastic drain pipe in it, and
covering
it back to the surface with sharp gravel. You could even lay a steel drain
grate on the top before the last gravel to hold the gravel in place.

Bob



The rains come so quickly here that it'll just roll right over the gravel.
I've got french drains else where and they still flood. The areas dry out
faster but there's still the flooding.
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