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Default 9V battery testing; Thevenin equivalent; car headlamps.

On 2006-08-01, Joop van der Velden wrote:
Adam Funk wrote:
I recently tested a 9V alkaline battery by measuring its open-circuit
voltage (9.0 V) and then measuring it with a car headlight lamp (R = 1
Ohm) across the terminals (4.0 V). The lamp lit up brightly and got
warm, but from the significant voltage drop I conclude that the
battery is basically dead. Correct?


No, 1,25 ohm ESR (Equivalent Series Resistance) for a 9V battery is
quite good. For a 1,5V "D" cell i would consider it too high.


Interesting. I though a 44% voltage drop sounded like a lot, but as
you and others have pointed out, the load resistance I've used is very
low. What sort of resistance do I really need for this sort of test?


- Vb + Rb
-----|||||-----/\/\/\-----
| |
| |
o o
| |
| Rl |
-----------/\/\/\---------


With the load removed, and assuming the voltmeter is an open circuit,
Vb = 9.0 V. With Rl = 1 Ohm in place and the voltage across o-o
measured as 4.0 V, the loop current is 4 A. So Rb is 1.25 Ohm.
Correct?


Yep. But remember that the 1 ohm of the lamp is measured in cold state.
At 9V it is probably a lot more.


Right. I measured the lamp's resistance with an ohmmeter, which of
course puts very little current through it.

But I took the measurements by clipping the voltmeter (actually it's
the same meter) leads onto the battery terminals, reading the
open-circuit voltage, then pressing the lamp's terminals against the
battery terminals (the spacing was convenient --- that's where I got
the idea from) and immediately reading the loaded voltage (before the
lamp heated up).


Is there a rule of thumb for judging a battery as "still OK" or
"dead" based on the calculated Thevenin resistance?


It depends of the size, technology and voltage. A large "D" cell will
have in its new state an Rb of about 0,1 ohm or even less.
A new 9V battery might give you somathing like 1 ohm.


Thanks!