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Default Initial fill of new Propane tank fact or fiction on purge needed



Ken Davey wrote:

On a lighter note; What is it about propane that triggers this group?
I think I will call this phenomenon the 'King of the Hill' syndrome.




I don't know, Some of what's been posted is accurate but lots of this
'information' is inaccurate.

And purging a gasoline tank? What a troll!


I don't miss working with propane. Not because it can be explosive or
that it boils 44 degrees below 0, could be an interesting situation
where your feet are being frozen solid while the rest of you is betting
burnt to a crisp.

After some of the stuff I worked with i the Military and in aviation
propane is pretty pussy.

I don't miss working with propane because of the customers and some of
the Yahoos I worked with. 99% of the people who have propane either live
in trailer parks or live someplace without natural gas service. The
reason there isn't NG service is because they live in the middle of
nowhere. Enough of the customers kept chickens and cows in the house.
Bobtail drivers need to know the area, how better to know an area than
to have grown up there. Who were these people ? The ones living in
chicken and cow houses.

Ok, so maybe this is an exaggeration. But it sure seemed like it.

Then there were the drive in customers, those bringing small cans (up to
100 lb.) and motor homes.

There's the guy who wants me to put a little extra, AKA do an overfill,
in his 20s because he's going hunting and doesn't want to run out. I
tell him I can't do that, he says the other guy does it all the time. ??
Reallllly? and whose this other guy? He describes a co-worker. I say
I'll have to ask him about that but no, I'm not going to overfill. The
guy gets ****ed off. I tell him he's lucky I filled the tank he painted
black but since it's winter I think it will be Ok. Now that becomes an
issue.


Then there are the people who bring cans in that are rolling around the
trunk of their car. And they expect to leave that way. When your doing a
cylinder exchange ar HD or the local cig and beer stop they don't see
how you bring them in or how you leave with them so their asses are
covered. Unfortunately our fill stations were *right there*, I could see.

Try telling someone that's 'always done it this way' and the 'other
guys' never said anything (see chicken and cow houses) the dangers of
unsecured tanks and transporting a tank with the relief valve in liquid,
and how your (I'm) not going to be responsible for the law suit. Not to
mention how your not to transport cylinders in an enclosed area or
passenger compartment.


There was the young punk who pulls up to the dock (where motor fuel
tanks are filled) in his bosses dump truck and literally throws the
tanks on the dock. Talk about a sky rocketing stress level! I ask if
he's aware of the possibility that throwing cans around could cause a
fire and we could get burnt. He says, this is no ****: We all got to die
sometime. I failed every can on a visual.


Then there are the roofers. Roofers use high btu torches so in colder
times of the year their tanks frost off. As the torch is dyeing they
turn the torch on the tank. I've seen paint pealed from the heat. I had
one roofer tall me how sometimes they get the can so hot the relief
valve blows off, and boy that's neat if a little too exciting. Amazing
none of them got killed. How do roofers get the empties (sometimes there
still half full because of frost off) off the roof? They drop them. Lots
of foot and head ring damage, lots of dents and gouges. Failed damned
every tank they brought me once. So they bought some new ones which I
purged and filled and failed the next time I saw them because of the
char marks and dents. This story has a bright spot as the roofers bought
their own dispensing station so they wouldn't have to put up with me.
Cool, we can't be responsible for tanks they fill.


Then theirs the motor fuel/ motor home people. They pull in and first
question from me is anyone in the motor home. For the most part their
unprepared for this. They answer yes next words from me are everyone has
to be out of the motor home before I can fill it. For the most part
that's news to them. Noone in (pick a state) makes us do this. Yeah, I
know, but not only is it the law but it's also a good idea. Some people
want to argue. Sometimes they say no ones in the camper/ motor home and
while I was filling the tank I feel the home start rocking. Their whole
families inside, they didn't want to be inconvenienced. I've even had
people get offended when I say removal of their pets are optional, seems
they want me to think their pets are as valuable as humans.


Then there's the placard issue. Read one way you count only the LPG,
read another you count the can and LPG. The first way 3 33's can be
carried, read another only 1 33 can be carried. I doubt the people who
wrote the law understand it.


Working with LP wasn't bad, working with the people who use it was
unacceptable.





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Mark

N.E. Ohio


Never argue with a fool, a bystander can't tell you apart. (S. Clemens,
A.K.A. Mark Twain)

When in doubt hit the throttle. It may not help but it sure ends the
suspense. (Gaz, r.moto)