Thanks Rod,

Some outstanding perspective from the other side of the renovation
discussion. However, as you pointed out, there ARE scam artists taking
advantage of people with more dollars than sense.

We are aiming to identify them and put the word out that these guys are
one the prowl and not to be trusted.

We are hoping to build a consumer community to look out for one
another.

KBM @ renorant


HotRod wrote:
Have you ever noticed that all of these posts and TV shows "Holmes on Homes"
only listen to one side of the story? Has anyone every ask the contractor
why they did it that way or why they need the "Huge" downpayment? YES there
are some bad contractors but their are great ones that have been screwed by
"BAD" home owners... OR home owners that can only afford the "Quick fix"
what would you do as a contractor leave the roof leaking until they get the
money to fix it or do a quick patch and hope they have the money by
spring..... You want a story??? How about the multiple times I've been
called by "DIYs" that want me to quote a job explain the process and then
screw it up themselves, and then tell their neighbours how I suggested it be
done that way... or want me to come and fix it for cheap since they have
done 99% of the work....

"See it's drywalled and painted but the wall is leaning can you just fix it
quick I've already done 99% of the work....."

Want a bad contractor story? While on vacation my older, single neighbour
lady wanted to start construction on her kitchen, opening it up to the
livingroom. She lives in a huge 7000 sqf house, 20 years old. This involved
removing one (Non supporting) wall two outlets and a stove plug. The
contractor doing the work had already quoted the construction and said that
he would get his "friend" to do the electrical at extra cost. The quote for
the construction part was OKed after I went over it with her... The "friend"
of the contractor was going to start work on the electrical the next day,
BUT WHAT WAS HE CHARGING. I made the neighbour press him until she had a
quote in writting...... $17'500... He saw a little old lady with lots of
money.... Thats all I can say.....


"Reno Rant" wrote in message
oups.com...
Let's Work Together to Put an End to Renovation Rip Offs!


The current real estate market has created opportunities for the
unqualified and unscrupulous to take advantage of homeowners attempting
to upgrade their most important investment.

DO ANY OF THESE SOUND FAMILIAR ......

Poor workmanship
Substandard materials
Fake references
Inflated prices
Code violations
Incomplete work
Ignored time lines
Huge pre-payments
Partial action
No action!

The police can't stop them
The courts can't stop them
The Better Business Bureau can't stop them


Together, we can put them out of business

Tell us your story....