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On 2006-07-20, tim wrote:

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On Wed, 19 Jul 2006 14:43:59 +0100, Doctor Drivel wrote
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On Tue, 18 Jul 2006 20:57:50 +0100, Andrew Gabriel wrote
(in article ):

The government has abandoned the
Home Condition Reports, which
were due to be introduced next year
for all house sales in England and Wales.

Brilliant news.

Matt, it is not brilliant news at all.

Anything involving

Matt, anything involving a house is sound, a house MOT, is fine by
me.
It is a great idea.

A report paid for and held by the vendor? A waste of good trees. I
won't even bother looking at it. Completely pointless waste of time,
effort and money dreamed up by some **** who doesn't know the first
thing about buying and selling houses. The very last person in the
world I'm going to trust is the vendor.


The idea of HCR is sound indeed. An
MOT at house change. It ensures
that the buyer get a decent deal and the
services are all inspected. Everyone gains.

No they don't.

Matt, of source they don't, as it hasn't been inspected.

Only a half wit in the position of buying
a property would accept a survey
commissioned by the vendor.

Matt, it is not commissioned by the vendor. It would be "mandatory"
and
the vendor pays. Do you think a Part P inspector pulls back on the
rules
because of the person paying?

The (other) problem with the HCR is that it is going to
be a fairly basic check at unnecessarily high cost for
what you get (As you have to have one there will
be less incentive to bring the price down). It will
be one of those reports that tells you everything you
can see for yourself (if you CBA to look) and
almost nothing that you can't. For 49% of house
purchases it's going to be completely unnecessary
and for another 49% of sales it will be completely
inedaquate and a fuller survery will be required.
Only for about 2% of sales will be be of any
value (and yes it is obvious which sales these are)

AS I said, it should be looked at again. The report must be
comprehensive, covering all the item.

but why?

the sort of report you are suggesting is going to cost
over a grand.

It's irrelevant. I don't care if Ove Arup did it and it cost
GBP15K. I'm not going to trust anything paid for and held
by the vendor.

This is the nub of the problem, in every
other transaction the principle
is "Buyer beware" the HCR is culturally
incompatible with this.

And right to. A house is the most expensive thing 99% of us will buy. There
is also far too much con in hosuinga bnd hosue buying.

The actual rock on which this ill
conceived

An MOT for a house is not ill-conceived at all. Anyone you things
differently is a crook having something to hide somewhere.