"Tim S" wrote in message
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Doctor Drivel wrote:


"Andy Wade" wrote in message
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Doctor Drivel wrote:

Do you think a Part P inspector ...

No such person.

There is. Certified Electricians who will test a house and give a
certificate saying it conforms to Part P. It is now big business.


In an ideal world. I've also seen reports of someone from the BC office
turning up, having a quick look and signing the job off without
any sort of formal tests. The BCO doesn't need to possess any
qualifications
to sign off a Part P notification, though most do subcontract a PIR as
supporting evidence.

A BCO would not be doing the test.

... pulls back on the rules because of the person paying?

Yes, actually - and very definitely.

I can't account for your cowboy dealings.

Get real. Years ago, I went to an
MOT station, where your MOT was issued
in 20 minutes, the engine was cold and
the car suspiciously parked exactly
as I left it.

That is why they changed the MOT rules and prosecuted dodgy dealers.

To my mind the whole HIP/HCR thing - which, as has already been said,
wasn't going to include testing gas or electrical installations in any
case - is fundamentally flawed. He who pays the piper calls the tune.

It should include all services.

If the government was going to bother at all, then I agree, it should.
Caveat still applies though. And it wasn't going to bother - in reality it
was going to be an assessment carried out by a failed hairdresser or
suchlike. I have more competence to assess a building than the shower of
HI
trainees that I was listening to on the radio last year.


You probably do. I suppose you think the same about MOT inspectors
too.

Your analogy with the MOT is quite invalid, IMO.

It isn't at all. A certified NCR inpector is the equiv to an MOT tester.

If the MOT test items we

a) Are the documents in order;

b) Report on the paintwork.

c) The MPG rating based on looking up the engine and manufacturer in a set
of tables.

Then maybe.

is just a report - you don't pass or fail it.

Parts may be failed like electricity and gas which should be included.

They wouldn't. Remember this was a half-arsed implementation anyway.

I read it was is under review. Intially it was to be fully blown check, but
the estate agents, surveyors, etc objected (sharks the lot of them), so it
was rolled back.

But any focus points should be brought up: old inefficient gas boiler,
poor shower performance, lead water mains, etc.

Who gives a rats arse? Any buyer with one good eyeball can see these.

Yes the 40ish office working lady will notice all this of course. Duh!.
Get real House selling is con mans dream. These checks to cut that crap out
and protect these people from sharks.

I knew a girl who bought a house thinking all the electrics were new. A
new
CU and, socket and switches, The wiring was 55 years old and falling
apart.

Didn't look very hard then.

She is not an electrician and can't even wire a plug.

I've saw a house exactly like this - new
fittings, new CU, total (quick and dirty) makeover. Took me 2 minutes to
spot a cable that was patently not new and raise the question about the
entire state of the wiring.

It is cons like this that these reports should bring to the surface. If
a rewires is £3K, then a price can be negotiate on the house price, but
it
must be done before occupation by the new owner.

Why? I've been quite prepared to
take on a house with 40 year old knackered
wiring and replace it post-haste if I bought.

Understand what an MOT is.

The NCR is in principle a good idea. Reviewing it is what is needed and
then implementing.

You'll be wanting guarantees
from blokes at car boot sales next. Get a
grip - selling a house is a private matter
between two parties. It needs
less government interference,

What it needs is proper house MOT to ensure the buyer gets a fully
serviceable house and is not ripped off by sharks. Those who are against
such schemes are...............sharks?