"michael" wrote in message
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Dan wrote:

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"Such is the complacency these great men have for the smiles of their
prince
that they will gratify every desire of ambition and power at the expense
of
truth, reason, and their country."

- John Dickinson, 1771 -

"Richard Lewis" wrote in message
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(Carl Nisarel) wrote:

Why do you gunners keep using that irrelevant and idiotic appeal to
emotion fallacy?

Idiotic? It happens hundreds of thousands of times a year. If you
don't see that as enough of a reason to answer the question, there's
no hope for you.

ral

Some people live in fear, others live.

Been that way for thousands of years...

The fearful ones buy guns, which may or may not improve their odds,
but does nothing to reduce their fear. In fact, if this group is any
indication,
guns serve to heighten the fear of their owners.

As an aside:

Any one know of any statistics on the rate of gun injuries based on
gun ownership (+/-)? I would think gun owner would, just by proximity,
have more injuries than non-owners, but have no actual information to
backup that hunch. The numbers published by gun enthusiasts do not
address this question, as near as I can tell (I could be wrong).

Dan

Well, here's a start to your requested stats. At age 52 I have not had any
gun
injuries. During this half-century of time I at times owned no guns, and
most of
the time several. No injuries. Never threatened to kill my spouse(s), my
kids,
grandkids, aunts, uncles, or even a couple of very forgettable relatives,
though
it could be a blessing I'm thinking.... The closest anyone around me when
I was
in possession of a firearm was the dumbass trying to steal the Blaupunkt
for my
bud's car, outside the shop at 0330, and his 2 pals. But, alas, I did not
excercise my vile bloodlust that most certainly lurks within, just made
him sit
in the car I found him in as the sirens summoned drew closer. Let the
other 2
run off as they were not an immediate threat. They did get to be
interviewed a
couple hours later, and got some "hotel" time to boot.
So, apply this bit of data toward your hunch.

mj



I never would have guessed you were so old, Michael. :)

But, alas, I did not excercise my vile bloodlust that most
certainly lurks within

Yes, but you have not met the Usual Suspects (copyright Vic
Mimoni) yet. Probably a good thing. ;) Much better to want
to reach through your screen and choke the living **** out
of two of them than spend time in the big house for actually
doing it. ;)


jon