Old Nick wrote:

On Sun, 30 Nov 2003 23:48:14 GMT, (Richard
Lewis) wrote something
......and in reply I say!:


errr. I think Ed talked of looking at _populations_ and murders. It's
people that do the murders, not states...more people more murders.

No, Ed, Carl, and Jim accused Gunner of using a lying quote and tried
to prove it by re-interpreting it however they wished. The quote was,
in fact, true and it was Ed, Carl, and Jim who were "lying or fools
and probably a bit of both".

ral

It is interesting though that the murder rate appears not to be higher
per capita in the freer states.

By my count that is 25 states (those marked **) that allow open
carrying without any sort of permit to buy/carry etc etc etc as per
Gunner's quote.

Let's all look at the murder numbers now, shall we? What is that,
3,755 total murders in all those 25 open carry states? That's in
2000, of course....couldn't find this year's numbers. The total US
that year had 15,517 murders so that makes 11,762 in states that
restrict open carry as per Gunner's quote....and that makes a grand
total of right at 76% of all murders committed in restricted carry
states etc etc etc.

How's that foot tasting there, dude?

Ed?

ral


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