Carl Byrns wrote:

Betcha a bagel he doesn't respond at all- that's his way of dealing
with anything he can't refute.

-Carl

That's fine, Carl. I'll be glad to refute you and Ed both.

**Alabama requires a permit to carry concealed but has no open carry
restrictions or permit to buy laws. 329 murders in 2000.

**Alaska same. 27 murders.

**Arizona same. 359 murders.

Arkansas requires a permit to carry.

California....what needs to be said?

**Colorado concealed carry permit only....open is ok. 134 murders

Connecticut requires a permit to purchase and to carry.

**Delaware....concealed carry permit only....open is fine. 25.

Florida....no open carry allowed.

Georgia....permit to carry open or concealed.

Hawaii requires permits to purchase, carry, and registration.

**Idaho appears to have no open carry restrictions. 16 murders.

Illinois has laws that require permits to purchase and carry and
registration etc etc etc.

Indiana requires a permit to carry open or concealed.

Iowa requires a permit to purchase and carry....

**Kansas....no laws applicable. 169.

**Kentucky has no restrictions to open carry. 193.

**Louisiana has a permit to carry concealed only with no restrictions
on open carry. 560.

**Maine.... 15.

Maryland....permit to carry openly yadda yadda yadda.

Massachusetts....permit to do just about everything.

Michigan....permit to purchase etc....

Minnesota....same

**Mississippi....no restrictions to open carry. 255.

Missouri....permit to purchase etc etc etc.

**Montana....open carry is not restricted. 16.

Nebraska....permit to purchase.

**Nevada has no apparent restrictions to open carry. 129.

**New Hampshire....none at all. 22.

New Jersey....permit to buy/carry/registration etc.

**New Mexico has no restrictions to open carry. 135.

New York....too obvious.

North Carolina....permits to buy etc.

North Dakota has no legal open carry allowed except when hunting etc.

**Ohio has no state laws prohibiting open carry but most of the state
is restricted due to local laws. 418.

Oklahoma allows no carrying unless it's unloaded and then only under
strict regs.

**Oregon has no restrictions to open carry. 70

Pennsylvania, no open carry is allowed.

Rhode Island....permits to buy and license to carry etc.

South Carolina....permit to carry openly or concealed.

**South Dakota has no apparent restrictions to open carry. 7 murders
in 2000.

Tennessee....no open carry allowed except hunting etc.

Texas requires a permit to carry open or concealed.

**Utah, open carry is allowed with some strict restrictions. 43.

**Vermont has no open carry laws that apply. 9.

**Virginia allows open carry with no permits. 401.

**Washington allows open carry. 196.

**West Virginia allows open carry. 46.

**Wisconsin has no open carry restrictions that I could find. 169.

**Wyoming allows open carry without permits. 12.

District of Columbia....y'all forgot this one, right? Common thing
among antigunners is to skip DC when figuring the numbers to make
things look better. Y'all wouldn't do that, would ya?

By my count that is 25 states (those marked **) that allow open
carrying without any sort of permit to buy/carry etc etc etc as per
Gunner's quote.

Let's all look at the murder numbers now, shall we? What is that,
3,755 total murders in all those 25 open carry states? That's in
2000, of course....couldn't find this year's numbers. The total US
that year had 15,517 murders so that makes 11,762 in states that
restrict open carry as per Gunner's quote....and that makes a grand
total of right at 76% of all murders committed in restricted carry
states etc etc etc.

How's that foot tasting there, dude?

Ed?

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