Grant,

Do you mean that Grizzly product 1064 (4" cs vise) is significantly
better in quality then the related HF one? I see that the price is almost
the same (except the no 'pick-up' option but then there is no tax) and
if so would be inclined to by the Grizzly one. Problem is that it's
possible absolutely the same Chinese product, isn't it?

Thanks