The Reid wrote in
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Following up to Adrian Tupper

so you *would* support a 10 mph urban speed limit?

We already have 20mph in sensitive places and I don't think moving to
10mph is going to help. If it does, then I would rather the road is
closed completely and traffic is routed somewhere away from
pedestrians
as a 10mph road is next to useless for most.

I broadly agree. But I'm sure you see that you are therefore
agreeing with the utility argument, but just at a different
chosen trade off.

Very very few value statements work when tested in extremis. The
important thing in my mind is to challenge the drivers' mentality you
frequently see that the road is MINE. If they can't share it with
pedestrians and cyclists etc then a reduction in everyones' rights is
inevitable.

--
Adrian

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