On Sun, 7 May 2006 13:30:05 -0700, "Hawke" wrote:

"Cliff" wrote in message
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On Sat, 6 May 2006 17:21:17 -0700, "Hawke" wrote:

Right, and that should tell you that there is something wrong in your
initial statement. However, you can have a valid premise and conclusion
and
still be wrong. All that means is the logic is correct. It doesn't mean
the
argument or statement is true. In this case that is what is going on. The
logic is okay but the statement is still wrong.

IOW Guns don't make you safer at all.
QED.

I take it you have never been in a bad neighborhood after dark, have you? Or
you wouldn't make a statement like that.

Neighborhoods are full of unarmed live people. They've
been there for many decades .....
Wingers with guns firing at shadows give some places a bad
name ....

If they wanted to shoot you for your gun though you'd never
see where the shots came from in advance .... or who else
had guns.

IOW Guns don't make you safer at all. You my *feel*
safer but .... drunken drivers are good ones too, right?
--
Cliff