9001 is largely BS but unfortunately we will have to bite the bullet and
do it if we want to get any export business. My software is ISO9001. I
have a $50,000 300+ page document that is growing every day full of crap
that says so. I had to do it to keep a couple of clients in Bermuda but
the customers are international banks that don't seem to think money is
actually a real thing so I could charge it all to them. :-)
For a small software shop like mine it is fairly easy to keep in
compliance. Mostly some added paperwork that has actually helped my
billing process but for a manufacturer I can see that it would be a
major PITA.
Tom Gardner wrote:
If I EVER do the ISO thing, please shoot me! I have cherry-picked some good
things from ISO but mostly it's just a way to exclude suppliers from the
"Boyz Club" I'm certainly no expert on it but any system that excludes
(un)common sense... I was always taught that "Quality" was a subjective
thing. It's not the highest quality for the application, it's the RIGHT
quality for the application. It still should be the right mix of
"rightquality", price and service that counts. My industry is mature and
shrinking, there ARE no frontiers. Participants gain market share with
buy-outs, improve productivity with technology, and out-source volume items
to China. I'm still concerned who is going to buy my industrial products
when industry is gone or who is going to buy ANYTHING with a burger-flipping
income, or who is going to be able to afford burgers?
"Glenn Ashmore" wrote in message
news:UQfub.6538$0K4.2929@lakeread04...
Actually you are part of the solution if you can do what the "theory"
says. Take all that extra profit and start an R&D project. Use the
excess labor to push the paper and get ISO9001 certified. Invest
another couple hundred $K setting up international marketing chanels and
start exporting. The theory says that is how we balance the trade
situation.
Oddly, we have such a situation here in Macon. Small job shop serving
the kaolin industry here developed a special ball mill for processing
chalk. The owner did an industry and trade junket to some place in
Africa and found a market for the mill. Now he is sending beer drinkin'
South Georgia good ol' boys to places like Celon, Indonesia and China to
install his mills. Just added 40,000 more feet to the shop, a couple
million in machines and hired 8 more machinist.
That is how it is supposed to work but it is the exception rather than
the rule.
Tom Gardner wrote:
After following some of the links showing job loss and productivity
gains,
it's quite depressing, I've come to the conclusion that one of my main
goals
has been to eliminate employees' jobs. In the past year I have
eliminated 3
people and outsourced semi-finished goods from other American companies
at
least. But guess what? Boxes of parts don't have mood swings, PMS,
holidays, don't have to be heated or cooled, and NO SCRAP! They come
in at
a set cost with out the variables. Kind of sad that I can no longer
devote
the HR to barely breaking even ...on good days. But, specialized
suppliers
can do so much better due to their economy of scale than I can.
My newest built machine will eliminate 2 more jobs and a hefty bonus
structure. I just came to realize that the next 3 projects will be such
a
boost in productivity that 4 or 5 more jobs are in jeopardy. So does
this
make me a bad guy? I don't really think so, but multiply this around
the
country and that's a LOT of jobs lost with a net gain in products
produced.
So, who's going to have money to BUY products in the future?
--
Glenn Ashmore
I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack
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--
Glenn Ashmore
I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack
there of) at:
http://www.rutuonline.com
Shameless Commercial Division:
http://www.spade-anchor-us.com