"Peter Grey" wrote in message
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"Harold & Susan Vordos" wrote in message
Yep, that would be the accomplishment of the century. I love his
style.
Too bad his life was cut so short.

What's your style? Jim Hall? Gabor Szabo? Charlie Bird? Herb
Ellis? Joe Pass? Chet Atkins? (I hate country, but loved his style).

I've had people say I sound like Gabor Szabo but I don't hear it. I play
with a fairly bluesy approach, not unlike Kenny Burrell. Jim Hall has
been
my biggest influence. Scrapple From The Apple on "Jim Hall Live" still
gives me goose bumps. That's perhaps the best guitar trio album ever
recorded (I know Joe Pass fans will cringe when I say that). Needless to
say, I don't have the ears or skill of any on your list.

All in good time! None of us start out at the top.

If your style resembles Gabor Szabo, even remotely, you'd be a pleasure!

I'm quite partial to Herb Ellis, especially when combined with Oscar
Peterson and the late Ray Brown. I can really get off on his sound.
Don't know what he does, but you can pick him out of any recording if he's
there.

I don't know if you're familiar with some recent guitarists... If not,
and
have an interest, you might like Peter Bernstein's stuff.

I'm not educated in music, thus I have a difficult time describing what I
hear, so all I can do is make comparisons with those with which I'm
familiar. Peter Bernstein's stuff is not anything to which I've been
exposed, but we listen to two jazz stations here in Western Washington, so
I'll pay particular attention to each of them to see if they play anything
of his.

Susan and I listen to KPLU, which is found on the net. We also listen to
KMHD, which comes to us out of Oregon. We have a large stereo antenna and
get both of them quite well, in spite of the long distance, especially for
KMHD. KMHD is slightly more progressive in their choices, so I expect
it's only a matter of time until they play something of Bernstein's. .
KPLU is rather rigid in their music selection. For example, they do not
play any Chuck Mangione, nor do they ever play any of Herbie Mann's work.
That's certainly unfortunate, for each of them did some remarkable work.
Herbie Mann's Village Gate album has to be one of the better things ever put
on disk.

BTW, do you have any suggestions about bench sized used mills I would want
to look for?

We have drifted a bit, haven't we? I'm not well versed on the smaller
machines, but one of them I mentioned earlier, the Gorton line. Their small
machines are outstanding in quality as made, and would be an excellent
choice. They made various models through the years, the Unimill, sldo one I
believe was named an 0-16A, and perhaps many more. I don't really know, but
I've run the two mentioned and would recommend them highly to anyone
interested. They are not toys, were intended to do serious work with good
results. The Unimill had a tilting head as I recall, but the 0-16A did not.
That would be one negative, but otherwise it's an excellent choice. Nice
thing about it is it's small, and would lend itself to your minimum space
requirements and still do serious work.

I've read with considerable interest of those recommended by others. I
think, unless you intend to buy new, that your best bet is to pursue
anything that shows up until you find something worth having. Gary pointed
out some very good things to watch for. . That way you won't limit
yourself to a given machine, cutting down the odds of finding something that
would make you happy. Use four things as guidelines and you won't be
sorry with your choice, assuming it isn't junk.

1) A knee type mill
2) A "drop spindle" type of machine
3) Power feed on the quill so you can bore successfully
4) A tilting head type of machine, at least one direction, side to side, if
not front to back, too. Not all mills have tilting heads, a Gorton 9-J,
for example. There are others.

By having the four features mentioned above, you should be able to
accomplish pretty much anything you'll encounter. I might add, if you can
justify a larger machine, Bridgeport size, you'll not regret it, but I
understand your space limitations. If nothing else, you need reasonable
head room for those machines.

I have no quarrel with horizontal machines, but doing some things on them is
far more difficult. The best scenario is that you end up with one of each
type machine if you stay in the hobby.

Good luck!

Harold