Okay, so I'm late and catching up, but Gunner
wrote on Fri, 14 Apr 2006 08:57:10 GMT in misc.survivalism :
On Fri, 14 Apr 2006 00:13:56 -0700, "Hawke"
wrote:


Actually, the Collective has already offered him a hell of a deal, that of
being a member in American society. He may deny it or pretend that it
doesn't support him, but the truth is he's a major beneficiary of the
Collective. No man is an island and especially in a society like this one.
Whether one admits it or not, as an American, everyone is benefiting to some
extent or another. It might be from government services, opportunities, or
just the use of an infrastructure that one has contributed virtually nothing
to personally. The less one has the more they benefit from the Collective.
But it is amusing to still hear people today who actually believe that what
they achieve in life solely from their own efforts, and they never
understand that anything anyone does in this country is aided in one form or
another by the dreaded Collective.

Hawke

The Collective, as you call it Comrade...has simply given me the
opportunity to fail or suceed on my own. Has it given me some
assistance? Of course.

But ultimately..the choice is mine, the opportunity is mine.

And that is what makes you socialists so frightened of the Founders
intent..because it gives you free will. And free will, coupled with
personal responsiblity...is something you are frightened of. Like a
puppy presented with an open door to the outside, for the first time.

Some run free..others such as yourself..cower inside, ****ing
yourself.

Hear, Hear.

I've just finished up a bout with a couple kidney stones. No fun. Way
serious no fun. Yesterday went into see the doctor, and he said "We can
wait some more, or there is a Procedure". I said "When can we do the
procedure?" (Thinking "today? tonight? now?) and he said "Tomorrow." I
went home, arraigned transportation and came back. "A simple procedu I
went to sleep, I woke up with DB (Medical term: dead butt) and when the
butt was no longer numb, was discharged.

This is one of those, where if the company insurance plan is going to
cover it, then I will avail me of it, but had it not, well "As long as you
have your health."

Gunner

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