Yep, and you wouldn't believe how attached to them some people are. I can understand the attachment to a piece of electronic equipment, but not to a crappy one. Some people figure because it cost close to $1000 when they got it 12 years ago that it must still be worth that much. Those two things combined make for a "hard to steer down the right path" type of person. So they'd rather have it fixed than listen to reason and put that money toward a nice receiver.