On Fri, 3 Mar 2006 15:35:21 -0000, "Roger Mills \(aka Set Square\)"
wrote:
In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
Andy Hall wrote:
Fixing things involves plugs each time unless you do something like
I've done in the past. That is to fit Spur shelving rails at
intervals along the wall for most of the height of the wall. You can
then easily put shelves in and move as needed.
Not quite sure what you mean. What do they look like?
They are steel rails with regular slots. There are then U-shaped
brackets to fit them.
e.g. Screwfix 16003 17905 etc.
Different heights of rail and lengths of bracket are available.
This is a clone of the original Spur Steel-Lok product
http://www.spurshelving.com/html/tra...djustable1.htm
That one is readily available, but it's worth shopping around for
price.
Near the top of the
wall you can install a French cleat. This is basically a piece of
timber - e.g. about 70x35mm with a sloping edge at the top. It slopes
back towards the wall. You fit similar pieces the other way round to
the backs of cupboards, boards to hang tools on and so on. A spacer
piece of similar depth is attached to the bottom of the cupboard/board
The items can then be moved around as needed.
Now that's a really good idea!
Google using "french cleat" and you will get some illustrations of
different ways to do this.
DOOR
I'm gravitating towards sectional doors at present as being a better
compromise between functionality and aesthetics.
I'm not quite sure what is meant by the term 'sectional' in this context.
How do they fold, or whatever, and where do they go to when open?
They take virtually an L-shaped path because that's how the rails run.
When open, the door would end up horizontal, immediately under the
ceiling joists rather than at the level of the top of the door as an
up/over door does.
With my present arrangement of up/over doors, I use the space between
the top of the door and the ceiling (about 300mm) as a space to store
timber. When the door is changed, it will go above this rack and
below the ceiling.
Since the sectional doors are following an L-shaped path, it means
that you can put taller things closer to the doors as well.
Here is an illustration
http://www.hormann.co.uk/uk/en/katal..._garage_doors/
http://tinyurl.com/ry2oq
Depending on product, these are in the £4k area.
The other consideration is if you want to go for a single, full width
door. You will find that there is very little around in the entry
level up/over doors (e.g. Henderson, Cardale, ...) that will go to the
full width you intend. That was one of my reasons, apart from build
quality, for looking at Hoermann. It's worth going to a specialist
place and looking at different ones before you decide. Bear in mind
that lead times are often 6-8 weeks.
Another good quality product is Silvelox. This is from an Italian
manufacturer
http://www.silvelox.com/ENG/home_eng.htm
There are a lot more customisation options and they are a bit better
than Hoermann, but cost about 50% more.
I did look at roller shutter doors. From a functionality
perspective, they are good in the sense that they roll into a cassette
typically. You can also get them with insulating material on the
back. Normally the slats are steel or aluminium, sometimes plastic
covered. As I mentioned, although the functionality is attractive,
I don't particularly like the appearance and it wouldn't really go
with the house either.
ROOF
Yes. I already had a pitched and trussed roof - felted and battened
same as a house. The storage space is very useful. I fitted 50mm
Celotex across the tops of the rafters leaving the depth of them to
provide ventilation.
That seems like the way to go. Many thanks.
Since you are having to go for planning permission you can do this.
There is a planning exemption for roof heights to apex of 4m, but I
believe that having it a brick built building makes it permanent and
therefore not exempt.
The storage space is definitely worth having. Perhaps it might be an
idea to do a mockup against a photo of the house using a drawing
package and make sure that the larger roof doesn't make it loom....
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..andy