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Tom Eastman
 
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Default Rotary tank - how to build?

Perhaps you could use a servo motor from an old 51/4" floppy drive. These
are build on an aluminium frame and have good bearing. There is also a hub
to mount the bowl to. Some old turn tables used servo motors also.

Tom
"BR" wrote in message
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I'm doing some casual experimentation at home and would like suggestions

on building a
rotary tank to study fluid motion. I have many questions and probably

could have gotten a
few of them answered on my own but what the heck. I have no experience in

metalwork,
though I have experimented with brushed DC motors and PWM controllers.

Kalliroscope is a type of rheoscopic fluid used to study fluid motion.
For example:
http://www.kalliroscope.com/matisse/index.htm
click on Kalliroscopes / Revolving Kalliroscopes

A circular tank about 6-8" diameter by 3-4" deep, is mounted to a shaft

supported
by a suitable bearing block assembly. It will be filled with water and

kalliroscope or
other particulate matter, driven by a PC controlled reversible DC motor.

The tank could be
a cylinder, but prefer a hemiphere. The problem is finding a hemiphere

that can be mounted
accurately to a shaft. Perhaps a metal spinning co. might have some

leftover I could work
with, however haven't yet asked around. If I had to have one built, what

would be the ~
cost of a hemiphere, aluminum or stainless steel, 6" dia x 3" height with

an additional
1" height vertical wall section, with a boss or mating surface at the

bottom that would
allow accurate placement on a flange or shaft? I imagine the less TIR, the

more expensive.
Wall thickness can be whatever is necessary given it only has to contain

water. If it's
stainless steel then it can be similar to a kitchen mixing bowl. Max speed

is around 200
rpm or whatever that doesn't cause the water to be thrown out of the tank.

Coupling the motor to the tank. Should it be belt driven, or direct using

a flexible
coupler? Thinking of low speed DC servo motors in the ~300-550 rpm range

at
www.surpluscenter.com and perhaps they can be direct coupled? Or should I

consider a
higher rpm motor and reduce the speed thru a belt drive? Since tank

rotation will be
reversed frequently, I'm concerned with backlash of a coupler. I've seen

zero backlash
couplers but would then have to adapt shaft sizes, unless there are some

available with
different sizes on each end. But I guess it depends on what the motor

shaft and tank shaft
diameters happen to be. Now if I had one of those 7x12's...

Another thought (though seems insane) was using something like this:
http://www.etech4sale.com/commerce/c...roduct_id=1308
but the max rpm was I believe 63 rpm for this model. Other models go to

about 220 rpm or
so but were not on sale. However I'm not at all familiar with servo

actuators, and if it
would be worth it/too much trouble to adapt. The controller is expensive.

Seems like
overkill at 25 lbs. and they refer to it as compact, which kinda strikes

me funny. Of
course what am I thinking - I'm talking about a 6" diameter tank on my

desktop. Will a
servo actuator of that type allow for programming a smooth change in

velocity without much
trouble? What other smaller servos with bearings suitable for direct

mounting would be
reasonable for this application? A surplus servo and controller would be

ideal but I need
help in finding the right one that won't cost an arm. Having one that can

take the tank
directly would save a lot of work.

All this just to have the ability to repeat the rotary motions in case a

particular fluid
pattern interests me.

I appreciate your help.

Ben

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