On Sat, 11 Feb 2006 13:29:28 GMT, "." [email protected] wrote:

Andy Hall wrote:
On Sat, 11 Feb 2006 13:06:19 GMT, "." [email protected] wrote:






A few things don't seem quite right he

- Fixed hours for case 1

yup. long. but dry, usually indoors and generally warm. do more than
your contracted hours and you go up the greasy pole quicker.

.. or just get to keep your job because that is the expectation.

nope, it's all set out for you in your annual appraisal. what's expected to
get an 'A'. do the bare minimum and it's C's all the way, bust a bollock
and you can be like my 'mate' Paul: 14 years from the bottom to UK MD
of one of the largest companies on the planet. quite able to retire at 38 !

38 ffs !

Well...... if it's a large organisation (or even a smaller one for
that matter) they are not going to put anything in an annual appraisal
that explicitly or even overtly implicitly suggests more than the
statutory maximum working hours.

The more typical situation is to ask the employee to sign a waiver for
that.

Paul is one in several hundred thousand who probably also managed to
be in the right place at the right time as well as working hard and
being willing to take risks I suspect.


do 60
hours a week as a brickie and you're a stooped old man by the time
you're 50, round about the time a smart architect would be thinking
of semi retirement, having been a partner for some years.

- Suit and tie are an advantage?

over a pair of redwings, jeans and a lumberjack shirt ? shrugs.

I'd rather have the jeans.

me too.



- Politics only for case 2?

aye, but office politics is less likely to end up with a turd in
your tool box or a smack in the mouth for not liking x football team
over y football team. PLUS, you're less likely to have the ****
taken out
of you for reading a /book/ (heaven forfend) with your snap rather
than the sun or the mirror. or the daily spurt. lowbrow doesn't
cover it.

I see your point, but there can certainly be virtual turds in
toolboxes and there is more than the literal version of the smack in
the mouth.

yup, but it's more a case of debate over argument. subtle but important.

snip

The grass always seems greener....

I'll wager an architect looking out of the office window at the site below
doesn't think that as much as the brickie looking up at the suits in the
office, through the ****ing rain, in november, does ;-)

I'm sure that's true.


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..andy