Enoch Root wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Enoch Root wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Enoch Root wrote
Rod Speed wrote
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Enoch Root wrote

I think this whenever I see the "refrigeration" storage
method, as it applies to glue, coffee beans, whatever.

Most think this is all there is to it, but you have to consider
that, whenever you take that item out of the refrigerator, it is
a magnet for water in the air and will absorb it until its
temperature reaches equilibrium with the surrounding environment.
Water in your superglue, water in your beans, its all bad and it
all accelerates the degradation process possibly even more than
letting it sit on the shelf. Plus if you use as many beans as I
do per cuppa joe, there just aint no sense in it unless you're
buying the 50lb. econopak direct from colombia.

So if you are going to use this method remember
that and don't take it out of its (airtight) bag until
it has set for awhile at the working temperature.

Good point. Remember, cold air is much less moisture laden
than warm air so the fridge may actually be drying the stuff out.

That's completely mangling the physics.

What matters is that the humidity level is 100%.

It's going to be the dew point for the air
localized around the cool object, I think.

It should be at the dew point thruout the fridge.

You seem to still be thinking inside the box.

Nope, you are.

Remove the object from the icebox, and
what the dew point in the icebox is irrelevant.

I wasnt even commenting on that situation, I was
JUST commenting on his DRYING OUT claim.

I'm talking about *ambient* relative humidity, which can be quite low,
and you (having only mentioned humidity)... were still inside the
icebox.

Because I was JUST commenting on his DRYING OUT claim.

Well I don't know anything about the inside of a refrigerator that
would indicate it was governed by any other laws of physics than
those present in the outside world. It all still applies.

No it doesnt. There is no equivalent outside the fridge of
the area where frost forms inside the fridge. Its that that
produces the drying out of food etc that isnt covered etc.

And he might be right that the freezer is drying it out.

That wasnt what he said about the MECHANISM.

If the object is embedded or surrounded by ice its temperature will
oscillilate with a much lower amplitude than that of the refrigerator
air.

Irrelevant what was being discussed, THE DRYING OUT.

And it'll probably, on average, be higher than the
average temperature of the air in the freezer.

Wrong again.

Therefore its vapor pressure will be marginally higher
and there *will* be a net flow of water vapor out.

Utterly mangled all over again with what causes DRYING OUT.

It happens to meat that's ruined by "freezer burn",

Nope, not the way you claim.

which is just partially freeze dried meat.

No its not. Its the dried out meat. Dying out even when frozen.