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Weatherlawyer wrote:

nrh wrote:

Strong stuff, and he is not even here to defend himself. Not a good start.

This is a public forum and moreover it is one he can respond to at any
time. He is a priest of DIY is he not?

If I may pre-empt your reply here, doesn't calling someone a liar
presuppose that you know the truth? If so, what is it?

I know the truth of a theory is produced in scientifically controlled
experiment. With the maths and the repeated reproduction of the results,
working from the same beginnings still waiting to be seen, I am not yet
required to show my evidence am I?

If someone makes an unqualified unproven statement, anyone is perfectly
entitled to tell him to put up or shut up. Without offering indisputable
proof, he is just an empty headed priest of a modern religion. Or do you
think that if he can hypnotise enough people with his bull ****, he must be
correct?

Just saying very, very little all too often, is not very scientific is it?

You are not fit to lick his boots - and that's after one of his forays into
unmentionable material underfoot. And your 'explanation' is as
incomprehensible as the ideas in your head.

As for the producers of the programme: Horizon; they are as duplicitous as
they come.

They certainly made some critical errors in the program - at times dumbing
down the problem so that it sounded as if ideas of evolution started and
stopped with Charles Darwin. The concept had been well put earlier by Lamarck
and Darwin's own grandfather but Darwin's role was to identify the correct
process by which it works. Others (eg Wallace) came to a similar soluton
(though later) and Darwin's major contribution was painstaking and lifelong
testing of his ideas. He missed the vehicle by which evolution worked but this
was supplied (and ironically written up and sitting in Darwin's library) by
Mendel. Whilst there isn't the slightest shred of doubt about the fact of
evolution (any more than there is doubt of the fact of gravity) there is
constant discussion of details of the process and understanding of the
interactions between genotype, phenotype, individual/group and species.

The Jesuit had it right: the ignorant ideas of creationists are a menace to
both science and religion. Whether the damage to religion bothers you or not
depends on your belief; the damage to science and education is a menace to us
all.

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