On Mon, 23 Jan 2006 13:37:10 GMT, BottleBob wrote:
Cliff wrote:
On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 19:23:49 GMT, BottleBob wrote:
Cliff wrote:
I never considered it a metal. I know better.
Cliff:
Who cares what you considered, or didn't consider something?
You are confused G.
Cliff:
It's not my fault that you are unable to support your claim, and seem
to be in a snit over it.
Ah, but you see ...... I know what metals are G.
Opinions aren't facts,
And you opine is that Carbides are metals.
LOL ....
Heh, let's call it a working hypothesis, which can change when
convincing contradicting evidence is presented.
So after hundreds of years of folks knowing what metals are your lint
has a better idea?
let's see some facts/evidence.
You don't seem to know, eh?
Lint attack again?
You're the one that said you "knew better", yet you have presented no
factual evidence, or even a plausible explanation so far, that in any
way contradicts the premise that Tungsten Carbide is a metal.
Your lint must be on a roll.
The "LMAO" seems to be on you G.
Perhaps, perhaps not. LOL
No "perhaps" about it, BB.
I think Wick got you yet again.
I'm not the one that is having trouble backing up his claim.
I don't need to GGG.
I think we have established beyond a reasonable doubt that Tungsten is
a metal.
Up early? Too late? Confused?
Are you claiming that elemental Tungsten is NOT a metal? Better go
look at a periodic table of the elements if you're in doubt.
What part of "CARBIDE" was unclear?
Do you see the word "CARBIDE" in my sentence above where I said: "I
think we have established beyond a reasonable doubt that Tungsten is a
metal."
But THAT's not at all the subject, now is it?
LOL .....
Bottom line, Tungsten carbide is a chemical compound made up of
Tungsten metal, carbon, and the metal Cobalt as a binder.
But it's NOT a metal G.
Well let's just take a look at the properties of metals.
WHY? Think you'll find either Carbides or Tungsten Carbide there?
I thought I'd find some general properties of metals with which we
could compare the properties of Tungsten Carbide, and I did.
Have some electrically conductive plastics:
http://www.phschool.com/science/scie..._electric.html
http://www.boedeker.com/esdmatls.htm
http://composite.about.com/library/g...ldef-e1911.htm
Ever been nearly blinded by the sun's glare reflecting from glass?
LOL ....
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Metals, group of chemical elements that exhibit all or most of the
following physical qualities: they are solid at ordinary temperatures;
opaque, except in extremely thin films; good electrical and thermal
conductors (see Conductor, Electrical); lustrous when polished; and have
a crystalline structure when in the solid state.
Metallic elements can combine with one another and with certain other
elements, either as compounds, as solutions, or as intimate mixtures. A
substance composed of two or more metals, or a substance composed of a
metal and certain nonmetals such as carbon are called alloys.
Good for you. You can copy & paste stuff.
So can jb.
IMO, copying from credible sources trumps unsupported conjecture and
WAG's any day.
Knowing the facts is much better than search, copy & paste followed by your
lint going more crazy than usual.
"Metals," Microsoft® Encarta® Encyclopedia 2000. © 1993-1999 Microsoft
Corporation. All rights reserved.
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Tungsten carbide tooling (inserts, end mills, etc.), have the following
properties listed above for metals:
solid at ordinary temperatures
opaque
good electrical and thermal conductors (see excerpt below)
lustrous when polished
and have a crystalline structure when in the solid state
sheesh
NOW it's "Tungsten carbide tooling" .....
Of course it's Tungsten carbide tooling, what do you think the
discussion was about, Carbide Bucky Balls?
Are they metals too per your lint?
Rocks are opaque too so I suppose that you think that they are metals too ...
Do all rocks have good electrical and thermal conductivity? NO!
Do all rocks have a crystalline structure? NO!
Umm ... you may want to rethink that G.
Do all rocks have a luster when polished? NO!
Umm ... you may want to rethink that G.
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http://www.hydrocarbide.com/pg6.htm
Properties of Tungsten Carbide
Thermal Conductivity - Tungsten carbide is in the range of twice that of
tool steel and carbon steel.
steel =~ Thermal Conductivity 51.9 W/m-K 360 BTU-in/hr-ft²-°F
Electrical Conductivity - Tungsten carbide is in the same range as tool
steel and carbon steel.
Tungsten Carbide, WC =~ Thermal Conductivity 100 W/m-K 694 BTU-in/hr-ft²-°F
Natural Diamond =~ Thermal Conductivity 2000 W/m-K 13900 BTU-in/hr-ft²-°F
And YOU were just chastising ME for copying and pasting? They have a
word for someone that criticizes others for the same things THEY do.
LOL
Compare & contrast with YOUR wild claims.
So Diamond is a metal too?
Is Diamond a good conductor of electricity? (Probably the most
important aspect of metals and their resultant metallic bonds) NO!
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If carbide end mills weren't electrically conductive they wouldn't make
my LED conductive tool length offsetting tool work, but they do. g
Tungsten carbide cutting tools sure seem to fit the criteria for metals
given above.
Nope.
Better go look at the property of metals list again and compare it to
the properties of Tungsten Carbide. You bias seems to be interfering
with your objectivity.
Nope. But your lint is having a party.
If you have some evidence to the contrary (that's EVIDENCE now - not
opinion), let's hear it.
http://www.1115.org/archives/kilroy.jpg
So the bottom line so far is that you HAVE NOT presented any factual
evidence that Tungsten carbide is NOT a metal.
I don't have to VBG.
Keep guessing !!
But yet Tungsten carbide seems to correlate very well with the
properties of metals listed from Encarta Encyclopedia.
Cobalt does.
I posted data on Tungsten Carbide as you may well recall ...
Like I said before, let's see some factual EVIDENCE, not unsupported
rhetoric, opinions, speculations, WAG's, or misinformation.
LOL ....
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Cliff