You take one lousy week off to join Thorax at the Elvis concert, and this
is what happens: "tonyp" writes on Fri, 20 Jan 2006
21:05:08 -0500 in rec.crafts.metalworking :

"pyotr filipivich" wrote

One more time for the Left Coast Audience":
the New York Times does not have government powers,
no matter how self important they consider themselves.


Right. We have a government of _enumerated_ powers. The press does not
have "powers", it has _rights_, just like you do. Which of the NYT's rights
would you like to take away?

Hmm, how about the right to make asses of themselves. No, that
wouldn't be fair, or plausible. Too many Democrats would have to go to
jail.

How about the "right" to aid and comfort the enemies of this country
under the guise of "freedom of the press"?

How about the right to conspire to over throw the government by force
or violence? Or the right to conspire to commit mass murder? Democrats
seem to find that protecting the rights of anyone so inclined to trump the
responsibility of governments to protect the citizenry.

I realize that it is a stretch for Democrats to accept, but the New
York Times is not part of the government, and reporting what you consider
to be misdeeds to them doesn't constitute notifying the proper authorities.

I've yet to see a Democrat make a connection between bars to
information collecting and the subsequent inability of the government to
"connect the dots" before an atrocity is committed.
Deputy AG Gorelick was the one who wrote the memo making it effectively
illegal for intelligence operations and criminal investigators to share
information. Too bad, otherwise there might not have been a September
Eleven operation against the US. Then where would the Democrats be,
without a reason to wonder why the world hates them.

For your conservative audience: whatever rights mr. filipivich takes away
from the NYT, he also takes away from _you_.

So, in your efforts to forestall further attacks on the US, what
adjustment in your way of life are you intending to demand be made? Shall
the Government control the means of production of media products, the
better to stop offending third world Victorians? What a match up that
would make, "progressive" liberals joining with the Baptists to get
Disneyland to stop having their special Gay Day. And the progressive will
no doubt be joining with the Cardinal of New York to keep the homosexuals
out of the St Patrick's day parade. Hmm, would they join with the Amish to
get the issuing of driver's licences to women stopped? It is a half
measure for the Amish, maybe.

Then the progressive can join with the Wahhabist Immans to require
every woman to cover herself when in public, and to not go into the public
areas without a responsible male escorting her.

What say you you don't want to stop doing those things? But those are
just the sort of offensive behaviors which make the Wahhabists loathe you
and consider the US the Great Satan. And you don't want to know that, nor
what is being plotted against you. Fine, you may resume the position of
the Ostrich.

tschus
pyotr



--
pyotr filipivich
Denial is not a river in Egypt, "Denial is a save-now-pay-later scheme,
a contract written entirely in small print, for in the long run, the
denying person knows the truth on some level." LTC Grossman.