I've moved similar tools down to the basement of our townhome, including a
Clausing 5914 lathe, 8520 knee mill, 8540 and 8550 horizontal mills and a KO
Lee S714 surface grinder. They weigh between 650 and about 1,000 lbs each
and all of them were partially disassembled before moving. We could usually
get by with a 2-wheel fridge dolly, but the base on the surface grinder
proved too heavy for that approach and here's what my wife and I used to get
that down:

http://member.newsguy.com/~mphenry/base_move.htm

Basically a HF 400/800 lb winch was rigged to a frame that bore against the
basement doorway frame and the base (400 lb?) was slid down the stairs. It
worked a treat. We didn't reinforce the stairs or doorway and neither
suffered any damage. The same idea was used to move the base and column for
one of the horizontal mills, though that was tied down to the 2-wheel dolly.
As the pictures above show, tools come in through the garage into a utility
room and have to make a sharp 90° turn down the stairs, which really limits
the choices.

The 5400 lathe shouldn't be a problem, so long as you don't mind tearing it
down to major pieces. The bed will probably be the toughest part. The mill
might be another matter as it is 2,000 lbs. Judging from the parts diagram
I'd guess that the column is the heaviest component and is probably 500-750
lbs. If you take that apart, watch for any shims that might have been used
for alignment. I'd be inclined to check alignments before tearing it down
(if that's what you end up doing) as a baseline to check against on
re-assembly.

Mike

"Mike Berger" wrote in message
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My shop is in the basement: It has a high ceiling, easy access to
the breaker box, and is comfortable all year around. I haven't had
too much trouble getting woodworking tools down there, but metal shop
tools are another story.

* There is a straight shot from the back door to the basement door,
about 15' away. The floor is constructed with BCI floor joists
24" apart, with OSB subfloor and oak hardwood flooring.

* The stairs are straight down, with no curves or landings. There
are double 2x10 stringers on each side, and a 2x10 stringer down
the middle.

* There is an egress window, 42"x44" opening, that opens into a
window well about 5' deep and 2.5 feet back to front.

I want to move a Clausing 5400 series lathe and Grizzly G3616 mill
downstairs. The professional riggers (the only ones in the area)
can lift the lathe to my backdoor with a crane, but will not take
it downstairs without my disassembling it. Of course the heavier
milling machine won't go down any easier.

I'm told that the stairs are rated for about 1000 pounds as is, and
I'm not sure of the 1st floor -- but I'll put 3/4" plywood down when
I move the equipment, so that will both add weight and hopefully also
redistribute it a bit.

My original plan was to add two stringers to the stairway and brace
every 4th stair with a 2x4 frame to the concrete floor. But that
was assuming the riggers would actually need to get 1000 pounds
downstairs all at once. And with the double stringers on the sides,
I'm not convinced that two more are really necessary. The basement
has an 8' ceiling height, plus the height of the BCI joists, and
there are 15 steps.

Here are my two notions -- comments and ideas are welcome.

1. Add angle irons to each side of the stairway (over the existing
double stringers on each side) and use it as a track for a wheeled
cart. The cart would attach to a winch, braced on the concrete slab
that makes up the patio/step outside the backdoor. If I designed
well, the cart could be used to wheel the machinery from the back
door to the basement stairs, then rolled down on the track. There
is still the problem of what the cart should look like, and whether
I should bolt something together out of hardwood or have a steel
frame welded up. I would use 1000 pound rated non-swivel casters.

2. Remove the window well frame, excavate an incline down to the
window, and surface with concrete. This may require some kind of
brace against the foundation to replace the window well (or maybe
that's not necessary). The benefit is that machinery could be moved
directly into the basement without using the stairs. However
the window opening would still be too small for a lathe, for example,
without disassembling it. I suspect this would be a very expensive
proposition, probably in the neighborhood of $ 5000.

My garage is detached, uninsulated, not temperature controlled in
any way, and only has one 117 volt circuit, so switching the shop
location is not an option. I either have to come up with a solution
or resign myself to using miniature machine tools.

Since a lot of people in this newsgroup move machinery all the time,
I'd like comments on these ideas, and suggestions for things I may
have overlooked. Chances are good that I'll move more equipment in
and out over time, so something more than a one-time temporary
solution would be good.

Thanks for your thoughts and ideas.