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Koz
 
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Default OT - The Cost of War



Hawke wrote:

Ed Huntress wrote:


Go for it! 'Any room there for the holy rollers?


Who are they, anybody who goes to church?


A school board that degrades science by insisting on re-defining it to


fit


their own pet superstitions; a congressman who says we all should be
governed by a biblical worldview; a TV evangelist who says that the head
of
a foreign state suffered a stroke because he ignored a single phrase of
the
Bible.

They mostly vote Republican these days. We'd be better off if they voted
Repo-Tunisian, or Rubber-Tannery-Man, or whatever abortive exercise in
political dissonance Gunner and the kids have in mind.

--
Ed Huntress




Ed,

Did you catch the latest speeches by the Democrat Mayor of New


Orleans?


If not, tune your TV to CNN.




I saw part of it but aside from referring to New Orleans as being
"chocolate" there wasn't much to it. But did anyone see Dennis Hastert and
David Dreyer talking about the changes they wanted to make in lobbying? That
was a good one, I'll tell ya. They were going on about the Republican party
being the party of "reform". Yeah, they are for reform as soon as they get
exposed as being completely crooked. Of course, it isn't until they get
eposed for taking bribes from lobbyists until the idea hits them. Nothing
could be more hypocritical than the Republicans crying for lobbying reform.
After their orgy of taking money and other gifts from lobbyists it's a
little late for that. What's nearly as funny as their newfound honesty is
their assertion that they are a reform party. There is one thing Republicans
have always stood for and it isn't reform. It's called the status quo.
Putting a Republican in office means that everything will remain the same
for as long as possible or that by reform they mean going backwards to doing
things the old ways. Their motto has always been "Stand Pat". They've been
using that since TRs days.

Hawke




As screaming liberal commie, I do have to point out that it's not just
the republicans....both sides are feeding at the pig trough.

What needs to happen is elimination of all money in the form of
donations, gifts, perks, etc that come from ANY source that does not
have a legal vote in the USA. That includes Unions as well as
corporations and charitable organizations. If you can't vote, you can't
influence the voting process. Corporations are NOT and should not be
considered the same as individuals with rights. They are bestowed the
ability to operate as a legal entity for tax purposes and business
operations, but should not treated like an invented person with deep
pockets.

Following that, it would be nice (but probably not legal due to
donations being considered the same as free speech) to limit individual
contributions to a specific maximum amount.

The real cheeser to me is campaining for re-election while holding
office. We continue to pay these people...and they even adjust all the
government schedules....while they campain to get back in. There is
inherent influence while still holding office. You get all sorts of
perks that help you get re-elected like free mail, the president gets
the use of a private plane at super discount rates (which is like a
flying billboard), you get on TV more easily because you are already in
office, etc. basically, the Govt shuts down for 6+ months while we pay
these guys to get re-elected. Wouldn't you like to keep getting your
paycheck for 6 or 8 months while you spent all your time looking for a job?

I am not for term limits because that would eliminate the possibilities
for someone REALLY good to keep doing the job (few and far between).
What I would support is requiring terms to be non-consecutive. You can
come back, just not because you are already there. You can't waste my
time and money trying to get re-elected when you should be working. You
have to earn it back just like the new kid on the block running for the
first time.


Koz