Geoman^^ wrote:
"dianaiad" wrote in message
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Diana, I have another suggestion, go away, and don't have any kids, we have
enough idiots in the world.

I bet you read that all on your own one night !! Ha ha, yeah, right!!!

Here is the 20th century definition of a cult, I don't care if you like it
or not, it is accurate.

According to whom?

BTW, I DID read Van Baalen's book in 1973

Oh, my beating heart, he read a book!

Mind you, "The Chaos of Cults" isn't quite as polemic and inacurate as
later books, and van Baalen isn't QUITE as nastily inaccurate as, say,
Walter Martin, but his depiction of the LDS church doctrine was still
somewhat inaccurate in some very important points. Note: I didn't argue
with his opinion; his opinion was his and he had every right to it.
What I said was that his descriptions of LDS doctrine were inaccurate.
I don't have a copy of "The Chaos of Cults" in front of me at the
moment, so I can't give you chapter and verse...and the one I read was
published in 1938 (the first edition), Since it has been revised and
expanded several times since then, and since its last incarnation, a
decade ago, was published by the Christian Research Institute, I have a
feeling that the accuracy level is even more problematic now. However,
do not, by any means, let that disturb your preconceptions.

and didn't
go to google to search something that would align itself with my
predispostional views.

(snort)

This from the man who went to the internet to cut and paste an American
Heritage Dictonary definition, without doing any other research?

Your a real classic idiot.

That's "you're", not "your." Tell me, dear sir, have you read any
books since "The Chaos of Cults"?

Evangelical Christian and Counter-Cult Movement usage: Any religious group
which accepts most but not all of the historical Christian doctrines (the
divinity of Jesus, virgin birth, the Trinity, salvation, etc.). The
implication is that the cult's theology is invalid; they teach heresy. Under
this definition, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (the
Mormons), Unification Church and Jehovah's Witnesses to be cults. But they
would not classify Wicca as such, because it is not associated with
Christianity. The earliest use of this meaning of the word "Cult" is
believed to be a 1938 book "The Chaos of the Cults" by J.K. VanBaalen. On
the other hand, new religious groups such as the Mormons, Unification Church
and Jehovah's Witnesses generally regard themselves to be the true Christian
church. They view all other denominations as being in error. (But not as a
cult unless they deny the fundamental doctrines, some listed above.)

And you got this from where, exactly? It is generally a good idea to
properly attribute the source of a quote.

By the way; since when did the 'Evangelical Christian and Counter-Cult
Movement" get to define words for the rest of the English speaking
world?

Hint: never. They don't get to do that. YOU don't get to do that. Even
van Baalen didn't get to do that.

Oh, just as an aside...never get into an argument about linguistics
with an English professor. In fact, I would strongly advise you not to
get into such a discussion with anyone who has recieved greater than a
"C" in English 80.

Diana