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Default MORMON IS A CULT.


"dianaiad" wrote in message
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Oscar_Lives wrote:
Most Christians who critique the Mormon view of God do so from
a strictly biblical perspective. Christian apologists have
correctly pointed out that Mormon theology conflicts with biblical
doctrine in a number of important areas, including the nature of
God, the plan of salvation, and the nature of man.[1]


snip rest of autobot reposting of something this complete and utter
idiot has posted in its entirety several times, often within the SAME
THREAD, and that I, to my utter shame, actually answered once, point by
point. Man, I will NEVER learn not to feed the trolls

Regarding the title of this thread: Mormon is/was a man, or, if you
don't believe that he existed, a fictional character in a book. Either
way, he can't be a cult. Mormon ISM can be.

In fact, it is a cult. So, by the way, is Catholicism, every single
sect of Protestantism, and every other 'ism' there is out there. You
might try looking up the definition of a word before you pull something
this utterly brainless: cult: a system of community of religious
worship and ritual. Another definition of 'cult' that is nonreligious
is " obsessive, especially faddish, devotion to or veneration for a
person, principle, or thing."

Of course, I like the following definitions much better:
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"...if you believe in it, it is a religion or perhaps 'the' religion;
and if you do not care one way or another about it, it is a sect;
but if you fear and hate it, it is a cult." Leo Pfeffer. A humorous
quotation, but one that is uncomfortably close to reality.
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"Cults are claimed to be deceitful. They are claimed to be harmful to
their members. They are claimed to be undermining American values.
Cults are claimed to be just about every bad thing in the book these
days, and with the pervasive images of Manson and Jim Jones hanging
over us, any group that is called a cult is immediately associated with
those two people." J. Gordon Melton.
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"My working definition of a cult is a group that you don't like, and I
say that somewhat facetiously, but at the same time, in fact, that is
my working definition of a cult. It is a group that somebody doesn't
like. It is a derogatory term, and I have never seen it redeemed from
the derogatory connotations that it picked up in the sociological
literature in the 1930s." J. Gordon Melton.

From http://www.religioustolerance.org/cults.htm


In other words, you blithering idiot, "cult" is simply you being
childish and letting us know that you don't like the Mormons. We get
that already.

So I have a suggestion for you; go fix somebody's airconditioner.
Hopefully not mine; I wouldn't let you within fifty feet of my swamp
cooler and I SURE wouldn't allow you anywhere near a pipe that carried
natural gas. You would overload the system.

Diana



Diana, I have another suggestion, go away, and don't have any kids, we have
enough idiots in the world.

I bet you read that all on your own one night !! Ha ha, yeah, right!!!

Here is the 20th century definition of a cult, I don't care if you like it
or not, it is accurate. BTW, I DID read Van Baalen's book in 1973 and didn't
go to google to search something that would align itself with my
predispostional views.

Your a real classic idiot.

Evangelical Christian and Counter-Cult Movement usage: Any religious group
which accepts most but not all of the historical Christian doctrines (the
divinity of Jesus, virgin birth, the Trinity, salvation, etc.). The
implication is that the cult's theology is invalid; they teach heresy. Under
this definition, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (the
Mormons), Unification Church and Jehovah's Witnesses to be cults. But they
would not classify Wicca as such, because it is not associated with
Christianity. The earliest use of this meaning of the word "Cult" is
believed to be a 1938 book "The Chaos of the Cults" by J.K. VanBaalen. On
the other hand, new religious groups such as the Mormons, Unification Church
and Jehovah's Witnesses generally regard themselves to be the true Christian
church. They view all other denominations as being in error. (But not as a
cult unless they deny the fundamental doctrines, some listed above.)