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Adrian
 
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Default 'Steam' powered cars...

Doctor Drivel ) gurgled happily, sounding much like
they were saying :

Just like they ensured unleaded was at
the pumps. No demand for that
new fangled petrol guv, so we are not
'aving any. Until government
says put them it.


And there was me, thinking that was
because legislation required
catalytic converters which required unleaded...


Oh you are catching on. Yes, the 'government' said put them, and
instead that unleaded pumps would be around too.


Mmmm. Massive infrastructure changes required.

"Stop putting two star in, and start putting unleaded in."

Will they be putting electricity in the LRP tanks, then?

So, we scrap energy efficiency and
clean air because one dope in 60
million doesn't like stopping.


Clean air?


Yes. Clean in cities and the likes where millions of lungs are
exposed.


Because, of course, the pollution from power stations stays at the power
station, doesn't it?

I'm just trying to point out that
you need to CONVINCE people that
electric cars will work for them.


That is easy.


sits back and waits
dies of old age

And they won't on current technology.


Technology is here, right now, to give us electric cars with 200-300
mile ranges.


Really?
Please feel free to go into details.

OK, you seem to be an electric car
expert. Inform me. Enlighten me.
Convert me. What sort of battery
capacity would I need to propel a
ton


It doesn't matter. the car and battery will be sized to suit.


So we'll be throwing away all the
impact test requirements, will we?


Boy you are dumb.


One of us is. It's not me. Those sunglasses do suit you, though.
Interesting tint. Sort of... pinkish. You could almost call it "rose".

OK - so how do you plan to get the 50,000+ mile per year salesman or
service engineer out of his Mondeo estate stuffed with samples/tools
into something the size of a Smart?

And the production and recycling
of all those lovely toxic chemicals in
the batteries?


No toxic chemicals. Does your mobile phone battery have toxic
chemicals?


Yes. Massively so.
It's becoming a HUGE pollution problem.

Look at the efficiency of the newer stations and the
emissions too with advanced scrubbers.


What's the life of your typical power station?
Compared to the life of your typical car?

"The gripe by environmentalists is that electricity is dirty and
inefficient from power station to point use with latent heat and line
losses. True when looking at heating buildings and hot water, where
natural gas can be burnt at point of use at 90% efficiency (heating
your domestic hot water by electricity is about 30% efficient end to
end). However power generation is now more efficient with energy
reclaim measures in place in the newer and more advanced stations -
not to mention wind, solar, hydro etc.


Please feel free to consider the large %age of gas powered stations,
with particular reference to certain current affairs.

However, the vehicle is another matter. It is more efficient to pour
fuel into an engine at a power station with advanced stack scrubbers,
that drives a genny, that sends the electricity down a line, then into
a cars battery and propel the car, than pour the fuel directly into a
current car. 75% of energy stored in your tank is wasted, while only a
few percentage points of energy is wasted from a battery pack - and
the electric car is 100% clean at point of use, cleaning up cities at
a stroke."


And how much is wasted in the generation and transmission?