On Tue, 03 Jan 2006 16:08:55 GMT, "Dave Lyon"
wrote:


"Cliff" wrote in message
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On Mon, 02 Jan 2006 15:59:44 GMT, "Dave Lyon"
wrote:

It takes more oil energy to produce a gallon of grain Ethanol than
you can get back by burning same IIRC.



No it doesn't That's a lie that has been originated by oil companies.

You have to count all the upstream energy inputs.
US production only.
--
Cliff

Why?

Fairness.

The oil companies don't count their upstream energy inputs when they do
the comparison.

Don't they?

According to some studies, it requires more energy (not money) to produce a
btu of gasoline than a btu of ethanol. IF you count all the up stream, down
stream, and wasted energy.

You may be thinking only of refining?

Sorry Cliff. Your information is outdated. I'm sure it was true at one time,
but not any more.

Have some numbers?
--
Cliff