J. Clarke wrote:

No, ID does not go into religion, religion goes into ID.

Well that could be the case.


According
to the Discovery Institute, "intelligent design is not a
religious-based idea, but instead an evidence-based scientific theory
that holds there are certain features of living systems and the
universe that are best explained by an intelligent cause."

Yes, that is their propaganda. Or are you laboring under the misconception
that the "Discovery Institute" is anything but a front for the
fundamentalists?

I guess they fooled me, big time. I was going by what they say, not by
what others on an internet group say.


Then, I suppose, its up to you to figure out if the designer is god,
time travelers or spacemen. ID doesn't go into who the intelligent
designer might be. Now maybe some people like those school board folks
in Dover would like to use it to further their own purposes but that's
not basic ID from what I've read.

Uh huh. Once they've sold intelligent design then they can go on to sell
the designer. One step at a time.

I'm not much on conspiracy theories.


Evolutionists used to think of themselves as the champions of free
speech and academic freedom against unthinking dogmatism. Now they are
the dogmatists, demanding judicially-imposed censorship of dissent.
What are they afraid of?

What leads you to believe that "evolutionists" are _afraid_ of anything? If
the "intelligent design" people can present real evidence that their
hypothesis explains the observed data better than the evolutionary model
then the scientific community will happily embrace it.

Happily? I don't think that's been the case. They don't want to look at
the data. They already have their inquiring minds made up. Did you hear
what happened to Richard Sternberg when he published an article on ID?
He was retaliated against for simply publishing an article. He didn't
even agree with the article but thought it important to put it out
there. http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...toryId=5007508
Sure seems to me that the Darwinists want to shut down debate.

I can't figure it out.

GW