On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 13:23:07 -0500, "Ed Huntress"
wrote:
"Gunner Asch" wrote in message
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On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 04:08:34 -0500, "Ed Huntress"
wrote:
They didnt reveal themselves..someone else did. Thats why they call it
a secret operation. Governments do that. Most of them are quite legal.
Legitimate ogvernments do that under the law. This administration -- not
the
government, but one branch that has become a loose cannon -- just
violated
the law, flatly, and admittedly.
Got cites?
Oh, cripes, Gunner, they're all over the newswires and the Internet:
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By JENNIFER LOVEN
Associated Press Writer
Dec 17 10:40 AM US/Eastern
WASHINGTON - President Bush said Saturday he personally has authorized a
secret eavesdropping program in the U.S. more than 30 times since the Sept.
11 attacks
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The administration has admitted that they did not seek court warrants as
required under the law. I doubt if there is anyone in North America who does
not know this now.
So, he broke the law. He says the law is overridden by other authorizations
by Congress to use "all appropriate means." Most scholars seem to agree this
does not extend to violating the Constitution, nor did Congress intend that
it should.
But there are further issues. First, the administration may argue that the
law does not apply. It may also claim authority to violate the Constitution
under some theory of executive authority in time of "war."
These are other arguments, however. The primary one is that neither the
president nor Congress is authorized to violate the 4th Amendment.
The administration has admitted to violating the law by not seeking court
warrants. That's step one. Step two is deciding if he had the authority to
do so, laws or no laws. That's one for the federal courts to decide, not the
executive branch.
It's so bad that even a judge in the illegal secret court &
jail/torture/disappeared system has resigned over it.
Not even Faux "news" can keep that a secret:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,179344,00.html
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...122000685.html
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Cliff