On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 04:51:11 -0400, Gary R Coffman
wrote:

On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 01:10:39 GMT, (John Flanagan) wrote:
I have no problem with evolution either, in the generic sense. I have
a problem with Darwinian "random chance" evolution as being
astronomically improbable. Statistically it'd be easier to believe in
God than to believe in molecules bumping together producing anything
as complex as an ameoba.

Perhaps that's because you are profoundly ignorant of the rules
of carbon chemistry. Molecular collisions are random, but the
results depend on the rules of carbon chemistry, and those rules
are definitely *not* random.

Am I incorrect in believing that scientists have not created any
organic materials by "primordial" means more complex than amino acids?

I agree about the randomness of molecular interaction and also that
chemical law dictates the results of these interactions. But it's an
astronomically huge, unsubstantiated leap of faith, shall we call it,
to say that these chemical laws dictate the eventual assension to
organic molecules as complex as DNA. Or that there have ever been in
the history of the universe enough chemical interactions to make
plausible the development of incredibly complex DNA even "if" the laws
dictated it.

I thought a main notion of science was repeatability (when
applicable), why can't they repeat it?

Most evolutionists seem so sure about macro evolution when there is at
least an equally plausible explanation of the unsubstantiated process,
namely preexistant complexity. The idea that God created the first
DNA so that it would replicate and evolve itself into all the
succeeding species. Basically what Darwin says, except for this
conflict between design and randomness.

The unresolvable difference between the two camps is that one is
believes God exists and the other says there is no God. No matter how
high the evidence is piled for either camp's argument, the other will
not agree. Because this assumption, if you will, is the basis for
their entire world view. We can't let that get shaken can we. It
would take a truly honest and humble individual to change his mind and
it would be a radical change affecting his whole life.


John

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