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Default Request for a vote, for new electronic newsgroup

John Fields wrote in
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On 26 Dec 2005 17:58:43 GMT, newtype
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You need to see an anger management specialist.


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Blow me.
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Your know there's a good book written called "The Four Agreements"
Before you die of a heart attack, you should seriously read it.


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I don't want to get off any hook. Someone wanted a ML4410
datasheet. I scanned the datasheet to a pdf and I posted it, in
multiple parts of rars & pars to a.b.s.e , since it was a pdf
binaray file. YOU Personally, must own a.b.s.e ? I posted
binary files to a binaries newsgroup, what newsgroup law did I
break? None.


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No one has a quarrel with your posting files that were asked for
or, AFAIK, that they were RARs. You might have posted, if you
thought that anyone might have trouble with PARs, where they
could get the software they needed to decode them. What
everybody was bitching about was the _quantity_ of material
which you were posting which wasn't requested. That's been
stated over and over again. Why are you having so much trouble
understanding that?
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Wrong. Everyone has a quarrel, even you. I got withing 3 days hate
emails. "Stop what you are doing immediately." "You dumb f%@king
******* your ruining the newsgroup with your spam floods"
"I can't read what you are posting, my screen wont stop scrolling?"

well, finally a user with a returnable emial address, so I point
out, large files must be split up into smaller files, so news servers
can pass the data easily. Large data files get rejected. Try using
xnews, agent, gbabit, news xpress, all free.

I take a 10meg pdf file and make 10 1meg rar files and 3pars.
10 rar files is flooding the newsgroup? I highly doubt it.
Your mind is twisted.

And from the newsgroup the same person saying, my screen wont stop
scrooling. same message with a different public email?

What spam? This user sees alot of files. Unknown files.
"What the f#*k are these spammer!" Well they are rar files.
I'll use what ever archiving tool I want to. No one has a right
to tell me what archiving software to use, what operating sytem,
nothing.


Current users of a.b.s.e don't know what to do with rar and par
files, don't know how to use/configure newsreaders, accusing me
of posting files that look like they belong in a porn newsgroup,
music or video. Where's the problem here? humm, lack of
understanding, judgment ?


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Not at all. I'm sure most of us know how to decode RARs, and a
flood or RARs and their associated PARs looks the same no matter
what newsgroup they're posted to. The comments about the porn
and video groups were probably because your flood made the
headers look the same on abse as they do there, if only becuse
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10 small 1meg files, binary files that when uncoded is a datasheet
of an obsolete IC. 10 1meg files is not considered "VOLUME" by todays
internet traffic standards. The comments about the porn,
video & music, is because they have visited those sites. Why are
they there in those places? Your don't like a newsgroup, you
don't subscribe to it? It's 2 clicks to unsubscribe.
It's 2 clicks to kill a poster. "Roy L. Fuchs" , that's good.

There were like 5+ msgs saying to use someother newsreader.
Simple. Will that work. Nope. no one in a.b.s.e. is willing to use a
modern newsreader. Some email basher wants to know how to use
Outlook to read what I'm posting?


"I was told 'Go read the f*#king charter" . I did look for a
charter and a.b.s.e dosen't have a charter, never did.
I propose a newsgroup and I made a charter. And here you are
again attacking me, harassing me. I'm dead certain if there was
a company representatvie you'd be fired for harassment.


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You need to get over being so thin-skinned if you want to play.


Especially when you consider that we (I, in any case) consider
harrassment to be what you've been doing with your unsolicited
posts after we've asked you to stop.


wrong. Not un-solicited. There was a request for a ML4410
datasheet and I posted it to an electronics newsgroup for
binaries, a.b.s.e . You object to posting binaries?

The newsgroup a.b.s.e. is a public forum for binaries, PDFs
executables, pictures. There is no charter, because it's self
explanitory "a.binaries.s.e" . History, a long time ago when a.b.s.e
was created. people started to u/l 100's of zip files , I mean 100's
of zip files of their programs. freeware, shareware, new pkarc, new
lharc, new zip, 100's of files of their programs they wrote. Along
came 100's of virus's too.

This is the meaning of 'floods'. the past 5 years saw the "flood"
of foreign porn pics, 1000's of porn files. There were posts
of 100's of zip files for a new cad program. This was all
before Web pages became popular. Who needs a newsgroup with all
the people complaining. Make a web page, no sweat. And there was much
rejoicing to the newsgroups, no more binary floods.
Back then no one knew about kill files, except the unix/linux users.

You don't know what flood means, as with other users in a.b.s.e
You see a bunch of files and that means it's porn. There have been
over 10 msgs to a.b.s.e from users, use another newsreader, agent,
xnews, etc. To no avail, the 3 monkeys attitude.

There is no charter for a.b.s.e I propose a new newsgroup with a
charter. A charter to support multi-part files for binaries.
You do not have to subscribe to a new newsgroup. No one is forcing
you. The internet/usenet is open to everybody.



So, it's PKB, plain and simple.

If you want to try to get me fired send an email to
with your complaints and see
what happens. You might get lucky. But I'm about to retire
antway, so it won't make difference anyway.
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No. Firing would be too easy. You need to see a psych doctor.
Visit, after visit, after visit. Nothing as sweet as torture.


You're a ****ing idiot, and getting a newsgroup created won't
change that. Regardless of what you're looking for, we'll
give you what we want to, and if you don't like it, then take
a ****ing hike.


From a professional, I would't expect less. Your kind always
badgers belittles everyone else.


It seems that f#*k is in your only vocabulary? Since you've been
following me around to specifics newsgroups, your like a stalker?
You accuse me of cross posting? In your news header, you have lined
up more than 10 newsgroups. I only have one! I visit every newsgroup
every so often.

You are the one that's doing all the cross postings.


Creating a new newsgroup to accept the 'flooding' as you call it,
Creating a charter that states multiple part files are allowed...
why am I a f@&king idiot for that ?


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Because it's all unnecessary.
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It is necessary and it's no big deal to create a new newsgroup. You
write one up, get a vote and present it. It's no big deal if You
subscribe to it or not, that is your choice, that is called freedom.
You, and others on a.b.s.e, don't know how to decode rars are
complaining, hell your stalking me around the internet.

Your complaning about the 'flood' of files! You have said it over
and over again, "Stop your dumg f*#k flood of files" .
It is necessary to understand the difference between posting
multi-part binary files to binaries newsgroup and flooding
a binaries newsgroup whit off topic binaries. You don't post
1000's of porn pics from europe, russia, asia.

You don't post 100's files pertaining to religion, poetry,
humanities. That is called flooding.

I wrote a charter for the new newsgroup. I clearly state for posting
multi-part binary files.


Beside someone else said there's alt.binaries.ebook.technical
That's where I'll be posting the datasheets I have.


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Why? Does anyone really want them? Have you received requests
for them?
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Beside being retirement age, your loosing your memory too?
I posted to a.b.s.e the 82s129 and there was one guy who said can I
repost rar 11 and 14. Is this not a request? I got a request for the
82s100. Iin your mind is this a request? Your still inflamed about
the flood issue. All of the files I posted to a.b.s.e were
pertinent to electronics, they were datasheets. they were multi-part
binary rars that when combined back together to make the pdf, was a
datasheet of obsolete TTL PROMs.


There is no need for a newsgroup such as you propose and,
consequently, there is no need for a call for votes.


If the current users of the newsgroup a.b.s.e , can't except
multiple part files, then I proposed a new newsgroup that will
carry multiple part files. Call it flooding?


There's no need for a new newsgroup now, as was pointed out
there's another newgroup being flooded as we speak. I swear I
looked thru 100's of binary newsgroups, just missed that one.
Must be 800+ newsgroups by now?

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As I said before,there was a request for a ML4410 datasheet and
I posted it to an electronics newsgroup for binaries, a.b.s.e .
You object to posting binaries? Nope, you object to me posting
because in the past 2 or 3 weeks, there were jpgs of a building
project in san francisco, a 'copyrighted' manual for a wavetek
175 that was 13megs,(a typical big pdf file), and other
'copyrighted' manual posts, which you have no problem with. I
don't recall anyone asking for these expilitly. But when I post
a jpg with 4 ECL ICs on a static, you attack me " ... You
F*%king idiot." .


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I don't have any problems with any of the posts you mention
because they're typically one-time events or things most of us
who have been here for a while are interested in or would like
to see.


Wrong. The moment I posted the rar files, all you a-holes jumped all
over my case. You attaced me with spam email, attacked me in the
newsgroup. I put 5 of you in the kill file. Electronic datasheet pdf
spilt up into rars, so they can be propogated newsgroups servers.
And I reached requests from Arizona, England, Australia, Colorado.
No one has asked you for a datasheet.
I got asked, I posted the electronic datasheets to a newsgroup
created for binary files. This is where these files belong.
And you are telling me not to post files in a newsgroup created for
just reason, to post electronic data in binary form.

You dont have any right in telling anyone what to do.


For instance, the building in San Franscisco was a fortune
cookie factory that John Larkin, the owner of Highland
Technologies bought for two million dollars and is converting to
be his company's new facility.


2 million dollars!!! You are saying that it is perfectly fine for
someone who is rich to post pics & pdfs to a.b.s.e , but I can't
because I don't make that kind of money. No one asked JLarkin,
but you pester me over & over. You 'demand' who request those dumb
ass datasheets? I don't have to tell you anything. Your no body.
Your just a badgering piece of scum.


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The rest of the stuff, like the Wavetek manual and whatever, gets
posted once, ostensibly because someone asked for it, and its
done with.


By your own words " who requested it". I'll answer... no one!
Was it a copyright Wavetek manual. YES. Wavetek could sue that guys
ass off. But you say the obsolete datasheets I post are coyrighted
material. Who is are you going to call if the company called end of
life to IC? The company dosen't exist. What I mean is there's no
company, the factory is part of parking mall, shopping center, part
of freeway. What is right and wrong here?

You have been carrying on a double standard.

I havn't reposted the full datasheet have I. NO. It's in your mind,
You have decided to "own" alt.binaries.schematics.electronics
It is a god given right for you to protect a.b.s.e from everyone. You
are not a moderator, you are not a net cop. Your a nobody but a
paying customer to a ISP. The internet was created to be an open door
to the world. You have decided it is your duty to slam shut the doors
of freedom posting, where on-topic correct posting is due. You are a
vilganty.


You, on the other hand are a stranger here with no points and
the first thing you do is start posting hundreds of megabytes of
stuff that NO ONE wants to see and when you're asked to quit you
get all defensive and post even more.
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I was asked for any early prom info. I posted the signetics 1975
datasheet, I got 2 request from the newsgroup for a 82s129 and
82s100.


The internet was created to open the doors to strangers, to break
down barriers. You don't control the internet, You don't control any
newsgroup, your not a moderator. Your no body. I don't need any
points to subscribe, join, a newsgroup. Nobody needs priviliges to
join a newsgroup.

100's of megs? I can't fathom... I can't count 100's of megs.
I can count 100's of 1meg files, that when made back into the PDFs,
makes up less than 40megs across 5 datasheets.


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Fine. like I said before, I don't think anyone got upset
because you posted stuff that was asked for, what the problem
was was that when you were asked to stop posting stuff no one
had asked for, not only did you not stop, you posted more just
to rub our noses in it. ---


I don't remember anyone asking you explictly for ML4410, 82s129,
82s100 datasheets. It's hard to mind your own business at your
age huh?


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Not at all. I'm a member of this newsgroup and have been for a
long time, so if some newbie asshole like you comes along and
starts upsetting people I've grown to like over time, my
friends, then it _is_ my business. What does age have to do
with it? ---


I'l ask you again, DID anyone ask you explictly for ML4410, 82s129,
82s100 datasheets. ans. NO. I demand you tell me who has asked you
for a datasheet? ans: _____ ? clueless.

You are not part of any controlling overseeing governing group of a
newsgroup. You are not a net god from alt.config or any governing
newsgroup panel overseer.

You have no basis of complaining on what I have posted. All you have
is your own personal gains. As pointed out above, Only the rich
people who make 2,000,000.00 dollars can post without being harassed,
spammed. Only member with points can post binaries? What newsgroup
points!!! There never has been a point system, a rating system?
In your twisted old feeble head, you made up this point system.



Moderated too, huh? LOL, _You're_ the one who needs to get
lost.


I've volunteered as a moderator back in school, I know the
hours, it's not impossible. Just some robot software progams ?
What's the big deal?


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The _want_ to be a moderator. Go check out
misc.business.product-dev; you might find a soul mate there.
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Wrong. read 'FAQs and Posting Guidelines for news.groups.reviews'
Summary: This posting describes how to write a review for
news.groups.reviews and answers some questions on the moderation of
that group.


Your just attacking and harassing me. I can only wonder
if your the one who's been send me spam email?


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Hey, you're supposed to be the one with the internet skills and
the fake email address, so go find out.
Lemme know what you find, OK?



I find that you are a self proclaimed newsgroup controller with no
credentials to be so. Your living in the past century, don't know the
worldly internet is changing. The $100.00 portable is already on the
plate and billions of people are going to be connected to the
internet.

I don't want to be a moderator, but if it means starting a new
newsgroup, it's worth it since i've done it before and you havn't. To
filter out non-related topics to a new newsgroup is well worth it. A
new newsgroup will have very little traffic at 1st. I can always
request the new newsgroup be un-moderated. It's no big deal.