In article , Dave Plowman (News)
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In article ,
David wrote:
Dave it doesn't matter if you believe me or not and I don't believe
*I know*, having been there. I have been at the meetings and I have seen
what goes on, if you have been at the same meetings and not witnessed it
then you were either supporting or had your eyes closed, if you haven't
been to any of the meetings then you don't really know do you, and don't
forget we are talking about a while ago, it was the term 'track record'
that initiated this current thread, I was burnt by the unions in the
early/mid seventies, never again.

First it was a few bullying the majority, then it became the majority
bullying the few. And you as a union member got burned?

The majority were manipulated, this is not an unusual concept, the few
that refused to be manipulated were bullied by the union agitators.

Did you stand for office to sort out the union you belonged to but didn't
like the way it operated? Attended *all* union meetings - not just the
summoned ones?

No, I didn't stand for office but have been active outside of unions all
my working life, I refuse to be part of a block vote (if you discount
political elections) I never attended the smaller meetings because I
didn't want to be part of something I didn't like the look of so it was
the mass meetings I had direct experience of.

Do you have trouble believing that there was militant union activity in
the car industry? do you not believe that union "stewards" are capable
of bullying, cajoling, intimidating members who don't offer their full
support (the recent removal of the elderly chap at the Labour Conference
is a mild throwback to the old days)

It sounds like you have had a good recent experience of union
involvement, good for you, not all unions are as good and it wasn't
always like that.


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David