On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 00:00:19 +0000 (GMT), John Cartmell
wrote:

In article ,
John Rumm wrote:
Nick Atty wrote:

There *are* people who are not particularly articulate, poorly educated,
very shy, insecure, or who go to pieces under stress. They clearly
benefit from being morally supported and advised of the rules.

Agreed...

Obviously, not everybody does. And a Union isn't the only way that help
and support can be given.

Isn't that exactly what Andy was saying all along?

Yes - but no one has yet said how such support could be achieved.

Actually I did, several times. Among them were work peers,
specialist consultants in areas such as H&S, professional advisors
such as solicitors, counsellors, the list is endless.


Not to
mention all the other good things that unions do for workers and companies.

The track record is poor. Closed shops, restrictive practices,
working to rule, intimidation, secondary picketing, incitement to
violence, political agenda, ......



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..andy