forgot to mention, if you spend an afternoon down tthis road, you'll find
free suppliers, notes about best software. Some are text only, some are
html (a different animal I've never seen) - can anyone expain this? Is it
possible to use rogers server to read news with IE, not OE after midnight ,
some are this and that...

today I typed in usenet, news, giganews into the newgroup name filter search
and read all the info. Theres about 75 minutes left.