Gary H wrote:

David Maynard wrote:

Gary H wrote:

David Maynard wrote:

Gary H wrote:

Mxsmanic wrote:

Those of us who were there are not deceived by revisionist histories.
In those days, it was big bad IBM versus tiny helpless Microsoft, not
the other way around. Microsoft didn't (and couldn't) twist IBM's
arm.

Ya know, all this really isn't about Bill Gates or Microsoft Per
Se. It's about the greed factor and the power factor and the
control factor. The desire for absolute power and to corrupt
absolutely . The sort of thing that rears its ugly head virtually
every single day of our lives. Like Enron, Hollinger international
and on and on.

With Microsoft, like many others it *is* about greed and power.

With the oil industry, it *is* about greed and power.
For example, I live in the north-eastern part of this north
American continent. In the summertime, the price of gas goes
sky-high because of the demand and heating oil drops and in the
wintertime the price of heating fuel goes sky-high because of
demand and gas drops. The immediate response or belief drilled
into the general public is that there is a shortage of oil. There
is NOT.
There is plenty of oil. I know, because where I live, we are net
exporters of oil.

Super. But unless you can demonstrate your area's exports are enough
to power the planet that little factiod means nothing about the
state of the world's oil supply.

Overly simplistic bull****.

Your claim wasn't just overly simplistic it was fundamentally flawed
logic.

It's all of the sources worldwide that supplies the planet

Which is why your logic had no sense to it.

and there is plenty at the moment.

You've not provided any evidence of it.

It will eventually run out, so I guess the oil guys figure they'll
get their money now, while the gettin' is good..

But sane, rational, 'good guy' you would wait till there isn't any?

You don't notice a teensy flaw in your business plan?

The problem is that with the increased demand, nobody is building
extra refining capacity. Especially those who *control* the
industry. You know, the Exxons, Shell, and so on.


They haven't built new refineries in a coon's age because they can't
get permits as environmentalists have essentially blocked every
technologically feasible source of new energy production.

Again, overly simplistic bull****.

Just the facts, mam.

It's gotten to the point where these *******s are driving the crap
out of a barrel of oil because (get this) they're expecting a
friggin' snow storm in the north-east of the continent.


Wouldn't be so bad if you folks up there would ever let them build a
bloody pipeline too but, nooooooo. So when it's socked in every
other means of transport is cut off and you're stuck with whatever
local supplies have been pre stocked.

Again, over simplistic. It's not that building a pipeline is not
permitted, it that it's not permitted to build it the *way* you guys
want to do it.

Metal tube in the ground. You got some other kind?


Stupid a**hole. The pipeline would be over a coupla thousand miles of
Tundra. Do you know what that is?

Sure, I know what it is. I do not, however, know where the hell you're
located so get off you self indulgent high horse.

I doubt it. Why let factual
information get in the way. You cannot bury pipe in perma-frost. Also,
when run on the surface, migration paths for caribou and other migratory
species *must* be considered. The route chosen by our government, which
would have addressed all those concerns was too costly and too much
trouble for administrators of the US oil industry so, they wouldn't
build it. So, screw ya, do without it.

Typical whiner. Can't do this. Can't do that. Then blame it on someone else.

If your government is going to decide everything then why don't you folks
build it your own blessed selves?

We *do* have environmental protection rules up this way, and where
we have them, we apply them.



Good for you. So stop whining about the costs they impose.


Not whining about that part. Whining because the goddam crowd of
thieves on Wall St are the cause of these increases.

Yeah, it's all a 'plot' just to get you.

And you wonder why you sound like a conspiracy buff or paranoid.


snip, bull****