"Andy Hall" aka Matt wrote in message
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On Sun, 11 Dec 2005 18:57:36 -0000, "Doctor Drivel"
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"Andy Hall" aka Matt wrote in message

The reality is that it is the combination of the investment and risk
by the employer and the input of labour by the employees.

And the labour want a piece of the action of which they created, which
they
should be entitled to.

The "action" is created, by definition by the employer.

It isn't. It is created by the people.

The employee does a piece of work and is paid. That his his piece of
the action.

And when he sees what wealth he creates he has the right to ask for some of
the action, individually and collectively.

Where is your difficulty with that?

You have difficulty with many simple things.

Otherwise they act as one to get the message across.
You are so naive you think the world is perfect.

On the contrary. I know that it is not. I also know that it is
foolhardy to attempt to achieve things to any significant degree by
the use of a group.

You are fully naive.

There are some greedy and
callous managers.

There are all kinds of greedy and
callous people in all walks of life.

You don't say?

The employees achieve an objective
(be it a defined goal or number of
hours worked) and they get paid for it.

..and they see the yearly profits and say,
eh mate, we want some of that, we
made it.

... and they get it.

For example, a company mentioned recently in another thread:

In round numbers:

Gross profit: £2.7M

What is he on about. All companies have those figures? Wow!

The reality of all of this is that the
employees should be knocking at
the government's door.

They don't make the wealth for the government, they make it for their
company. Matt, you are clearly mad.

If you take a look at the accounts of any profitable company you will
see that a substantial chunk goes on wages and salaries so there is a
sharing of the income from the customer.

If you look at the accounts of some companies they could afford to give
the
employees £2K each as a bonus, and it would only scratch the profits. But
they don't.

The more sensible approach
would be to come to terms with
reality and provide the employer
with a constructive and compelling
set of reasons why he would wish
to pay more.

Yep. Like saying, we have seen the
bottom line and we make all the wealth
and want some of it.

Oh puhleez......

Matt, you mean they should be ripped off, after creating all the wealth? I
know you are not very bright, but you can't be that dumb.

Look up the companies that work to Quaker ethics: Honeywell, IBM,
Cadburys,
Clarke's Shoes, Huntley and Palmer, etc.

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.andy