"Nick Atty" wrote in message
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On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 21:29:58 +0000, Andy Hall aka Matt
wrote:

The real point is that an individual sells his skills and labour
either to an employer or to his own business.
This is no different to any other buying and selling of services and
products.

If one examines what happens in all other instances with buying and
selling of products and services, things have to match. The supplier
convinces the purchaser that they have what the purchaser wants to
buy. That includes the entire deliverable comprising product, service
and price.

It is the natural way of business since time immemorial.

Now consider the entry of a union into all of this. It is patent
nonsense. In effect it is the equivalent of a set of shops joining
together, using an outside consultant and telling their customers that
they are going to fix prices. If the customer doesn't want to buy on
that basis, then none of them will sell to him.

Don't forget that there is a lot more to what trade unions offer their
members than just collective bargaining on pay (and conditions of
service equivalent to pay - things like holidays). In many cases they
provide an individual with a counter-balance to the size, weight,
expertise and legal budgets of the employer.

Nick, desperately trying to save *one* uk.d-i-y thread from a
Hall/Drivel ****ing competition.

I know what your mean. Matt and his uk.d-i-y Lunatic Association can ruin
anything.