On Mon, 5 Dec 2005 06:48:45 -0800, "SteveB"
wrote:

I think that is why I like metalworking.

Steve ;-)

Simple and obvious can both be, but depend on how thoroughly you have
the basics down. There are a lot of things that are
counter-intuitive, but usually learned the hard way, which may just
also be the best way.

Rich.

Someone said something like knowledge is gained from experience, and that
being bad experience.

STeve

The true mark of experience, is you now know exactly when to
cringe..and/or duck and run.

Gunner

"Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire.
Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us)
off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give
them self determination under "play nice" rules.

Think of it as having your older brother knock the **** out of you
for torturing the cat." Gunner