The Real Bev wrote
Rod Speed wrote
The Real Bev wrote
John Chase wrote
The Real Bev wrote

The hard-core poor are mostly stupid. Stupid people used to die
before they were old enough to reproduce. We've changed all
that. We keep them alive, we keep their children alive and we keep their
grandchildren alive. We actually pay them to have more children.

Perhaps the humane thing is to allow them to move to special
"cities" with all the usual city things -- grocery stores, shops,
movies, apartments, TV, doctors, etc. -- with no requirement that
the inhabitants be useful at all. All will be provided. Classes
for those who wish to improve will be offered, along with
scholarships to real schools to those who can qualify. No poverty,
no crime, no disease, no drugs and you can leave if you want to
but you may not return for 30 days. Such a system has got to be
better for them than what they have,
and it has to be cheaper than what we're doing now since we won't
have to gear everything to the lowest common denominator.

Can somebody tell me what's wrong with this scenario? Your turn.

USConst. Amdt. XIII.

What slavery or involuntary servitude? The place is voluntary. Come and go
as you please, with the proviso that if you go you can't come
back for 30 days. Kids are forced to go to school now. Why not
their underage mothers? Or not. Nobody has to do anything. They're
fed and clothed and housed and entertained -- and perhaps educated
if they so choose -- until they leave or die. Up to them.

Oh yeah. No welfare payments outside. If you can't support yourself you
can move to the reservation and all your needs will be provided.

We tried it, with forced containment in the reservations too.

Didnt work.

Didnt work when you lot tried with with your savages either.

I think the hope was that they would die off,

Yep, and that wasnt going to happen if you hand out free food.

but some obstinately insisted on living.

Rather inconsiderate, but then the dregs usually are.

Ours do kill themselves at quite a high rate, but they
also have lots of kids, so the numbers keep increasing.

I see a difference -- the intent then was subjugation

Segregation, actually, just like you are proposing.

and possible extermination.

Not much of that.

I would hope that a more humane attitude would prevail today,

Ours are even worse today than they were in the past.

Essentially because in the past we used to ban alcohol and now we
have been stupid enough to decide that we cant discriminate anymore.

That terminal stupidity ripped away most of the jobs they had
too. They were useful when you didnt have to pay the much,
basically just food and board, but when you had to pay them
full first world wages, they were never going to be worth that.

and it would be a definite plus if people could be recovered rather than just
left to rot.

No one has ever worked out how to do that.

And there's been plenty of attempts at doing that.

It did work out eventually with the irish and the jews and
the asians, but its unlikely to ever work with the rest.

Medical too. Probably no gold star tooth implants, though.

Where in the thirteenth amendment does it say we have to support people who
won't support themselves? We'd be doing them a favor, not selling them into
slavery. I have no problem with keeping useless people alive as long as
they don't cause me any trouble, and I bet you feel the same way.

I dont, and many dont either. Too many bludgers already.

Do you really have to deal with people either dropping dead in the street or
resorting to crime? I suspect the reservation idea might work a bit better.

It never ever has whenever its been tried.

And its been tried a hell of a lot more than you realise.

Some were exclusively volunteers and that didnt work either.

We can't make "You don't work, you don't eat" stick because we're squeamish
about having people drop dead in the streets.

Yeah, specially their little kids.

This is just a kinder solution to the problem.

Next?

Seig Heil.

You misspelled 'sieg,' asshole.

I'm an arsehole, not an asshole.

In German, the second vowel of the diphthong is pronounced long.

I've never given a flying red **** about english spelling, let alone kraut.