Thanks for the info on 3m.

Yes, several neighbors have the same builder. None report this problem as
far as I know.

Of the 4 walls:

1. Shower door, only one bottom row of tiles and then the door above; no
tile problems yet.
2. Showerhead wall, the other side is my bedroom wall.
3. Long side wall, tile-only; the other side of this wall is some space
between the shower wall and my bedroom closet wall, the space is all closed
off with drywall so the bedroom wall runs across.
4. Shower wall opposite the showerhead; tile only and the other side of that
wall is the den wall.

I know that may sound confusing, but that is the best I can do, I just
finished connecting a dvr and darn near lost it with the pitiful manual!

Initially I would agree with you that bad tile could be it, but since it is
spreading, I can't say if the this discoloration is bad tile, or water
damage or what. It just happens to be that this is how it started, but only
time will tell if these tiles are the only ones that will change.

I am hoping to get some contractor info/bids week after next. I will ask if
they have the moisture check device before they come so I can see for myself
what is going on.

In the meantime, I will try the other solutions and update in a few days.
That DVR-install wiped me out! Ugh!

God bless,
Kim


"Norminn" wrote in message
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Kim wrote:
Norminn,

The tiles that have changed so far are the bottom row of tiles, closest
to the floor of the shower. I hope that is clear enough.

That is what I thought I understood )

Well, I tried the razor and got nothing.

As far as the 3m pad, please do tell exactly what pad is this, since
there are many, I don't know which one you tried. I would love for it
not to be a water problem and just a tough stain, but I have kept a clean
house for so long, and have tried so many things since this began, it is
highly unlikely, but I would try it to make sure if I was certain of the
3m pad you used, and getting Fantastic is obviously no problem.

Green 3M. I am certain that the first time I tried to attack my dirty
shower floor that I used the 3M but it remained just a trace of gray haze.
I doubt your problem is the same. It is also possible, I'm sure, to
damage some tile with a 3M, but it was all that would get our dirty shower
floor clean.

It seems you are also referring to the grout. I am not referring to the
grout, which is fine. I am referring to the tile only. None of the
tiles on the floor of the shower have changed (yet) just the bottom row
on the wall.

The builder left extra tiles, I will look at them to see what info I can
get on them, and also on any info on tile changing color.

Do you have neighbors whose homes were built by same builder?

I am still leaning towards water damage, but thank you for your
suggestions, as if they are in fact the case would be much easier to deal
with.

With one row of tile being only problem, I would lean toward a bad batch
of tile. If water damage, the wall should be spongy or showing problems
in other ways - what is on back side of the wall?

God bless,
Kim


Good luck. )