bo peep wrote:
Shouldn't you be out on a ledge somewhere?
John Cowart
If you have any facts that dispute the previous post, please present them.
Otherwise, your retort reflects badly upon you.
Here's an inexpensive exercise - the price of a first class postage stamp -
write to your local congresscritter and politely ask the following
questions:
To the Honorable Congresscritter:
I have some questions that I want you to answer. I await your reply.
Questions
If involuntary servitude is unconstitutional [1], how can "everyone"
born in America, be "U.S. citizens" with associated duties and
obligations?
If the Supreme Court says "people are sovereign"[2] but "citizens
are subjects"[3], who are those sovereign Americans who are not U.S.
citizens nor State Citizens?
If the United States is a foreign corporation with respect to a
State [4], am I a foreign person [5] with respect to the United
States or the Federal government corporation?
If there is no law compelling one to enroll in social security, and
no law punishing one who doesn't participate, is it 100% voluntary?
If one wishes to stop participating in social security, can one
lawfully revoke his signature upon the application, and renounce all
future claims to entitlements?
If one made an error claiming to be a U.S. or State
citizen/resident, when in fact, one was an American national, born &
domiciled within one of the States of the united States of America,
can one correct the record, and cancel the application for
enrollment into social security?
How is this accomplished?
Is an American national, who is NOT a citizen of a State of the
united States, nor the United States, nor under any laws of any
third country, a "foreign state" with respect to the Federal government?
If the constitution guarantees a "republican form" of government, is it not
a violation to promote and defend democracy[6]?
Thank you,
Undersigned.
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Footnotes
[1] 13th amendment
[2] "At the Revolution, the sovereignty devolved on the people and
they are truly the sovereigns of the country."
Chisholm v. Georgia, 2 Dall. 440, 463
"People are supreme, not the state."
Waring v. the Mayor of Savanah, 60 GA at 93.
"Government is not Sovereignty. Government is the machinery or expedient for
expressing the will of the sovereign power." City of Bisbee v. Cochise
County, 78 P. 2d 982, 986, 52 Ariz. 1
"The people of the state, as the successors of its former sovereign, are
entitled to all the rights which formerly belonged to the king by his own
prerogative."
Lansing v. Smith, (1829) 4 Wendell 9, (NY)
[3] "... the term 'citizen,' in the United States, is analogous to
the term "subject" in the common law; the change of phrase has
resulted from the change in government."
- State v. Manuel, 122 N.C. 122; State v. Manuel, 20 N.C. 122; 14
Corpus Juris Secundum Sec. 4
[4] FEDERAL CORPORATIONS - The United States government is a foreign
corporation with respect to a state. - - - Volume 19, Corpus Juris
Secundum XVIII. Foreign Corporations, Sections 883,884
[5] FOREIGN SOVEREIGN IMMUNITIES ACT OF 1976
§ 1603. Definitions
For purposes of this chapter --
(a) A "foreign state", ...
(3) which is neither a citizen of a State of the United States
as defined in section 1332 (c) and (d) of this title, nor created
under the laws of any third country.
[6] Section 4. The United States shall guarantee to every State in this
Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them
against Invasion; ....
[United States Constitution, Article 4, Section 4]
"GOVERNMENT (Republican Form of Government)- One in which the powers of
sovereignty are vested in the people and are exercised by the people,
either directly, or through representatives chosen by the people, to whom
those powers are specially delegated."
- - - Black's Law Dictionary, Sixth Edition, P. 695
"DEMOCRACY - That form of government in which the sovereign power resides in
and is exercised by the whole body of free citizens directly or indirectly
through a system of representation, as distinguished from monarchy,
aristocracy, or oligarchy."
- - - Black's Law Dictionary, Sixth Edition, P. 432
[Please note the identity of the parties who exercise sovereignty:
Republican form = People (not citizens), directly exercise sovereignty
Democratic form = Whole body of free citizens, indirectly exercise
sovereignty]
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