On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 16:36:48 -0800, "Jon Danniken"
wrote:

"Enoch Root" wrote:
Gunner Asch wrote:
Anyone got a "training collar" that would be interesting in selling
it?

Ive a lady friend with a problem dog, and this is the last resort
before putting the dog down.

I know those dogs... they change dramatically if you expose them to lots
o people.

But you can't just bring them there, you have to be involved with
getting to know the other people (and their dogs.) The dog takes the
que somehow and changes his/her ideas about others.

Socialization is the key.

Correct, as does having control of the dog in the first place, i.e., the dog
owner establishing and reinforcing herself as alpha. Of course, then you
get into the area of human behavior with some women (and men, for that
matter) not being comfortable establishing themselves as an alpha, in which
case a professional dog trainer will help train the human how to assert
themselves in the relationship.

Dogs are easy to train; training people to understand the factors that
influence behavior is the tough part.

Jon

Very true. I have some experience in this...shrug...

The dog responds well with me, but the owner....tends to be something
of a softy..and has soft control of the lead. The dog has been
socialized with a number of dogs, cats and people, including public
parks. With me..the dog has good manners, with her..he nut rolls
unexpectedly. He has been neutered about 2 yrs ago, no complications,
etc etc
It did little to fix the problem.

He was taken to a professional trainer, who trained both the dog and
the woman. The dog did well for about 4 months..then reverts
occasionally.

I suspect its a protection thing..but its hard to determine the exact
cause, or trigger.

He/she needs to revisit a trainer..but she is unable to afford the
fees. Shrug.

So intelligent aversion training is indicated at this point.

Gunner


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