On 8 Nov 2005 08:32:05 -0800, jim rozen
wrote:

In article , Gunner Asch says...

Ever wonder why nearly no machine tool dealer ever posts something
here? Because they know all about "tire kickers". And its not like
machine tool dealers dont have cheap machines collecting dust.....they
do, and often far too many of them, that are perfect for the home shop
machinist, but are too old, or too light duty for the commercial
market.

The other reason they don't (and btw, Dave Ficken *did* as did
scott logan, for a while) is because the HSM crowd is certainly
directed enough to go out and find the dealers - especially those
HSM types that are computer literate!


SOME of the HSM does. Many here simply kvetch and complain. Yall know
who yall are btw... G

You would get a smile talking to dave sobel. I love being in
his shop on occasion, hearing only one side of the phone
conversation. If he ever had any patience for tire-kickers,
it was probably used up in about 1960.

OTOH I think used machinery dealers do appreciate somebody who
says 'this is what I want, and here's the money if you have it.'

I'm still looking for a white dial hardinge UM or TM in cherry
condition for example. Sobel may be closed before he finds one
though.

Jim

Hard to find. Its that "cherry" part this is the issue. Are you a tire
kicker too? G

Gunner

"Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire.
Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us)
off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give
them self determination under "play nice" rules.

Think of it as having your older brother knock the **** out of you
for torturing the cat." Gunner