On Sun, 06 Nov 2005 19:25:20 -0700, Winston Smith
wrote:

(snips)

It is NOT what the blues want.

Yes, it obviously is.

If they don't win elections, how can you say the way things are run is
the way they want. Clearly they didn't want it or they would have
voted red.

The existing laws can't be changed by slim majorities due to
the 60% vote required to overcome a Senate filibuster, and,
yes, some weak-kneed "liberal" Republicans.

The
reds have the vote, any "socialist entitlement programs" are the
NeoCons. They can vote to stop it tomorrow.

Hardly repudiation of the redistributive Federal state.

How much harder could they repudiate? They voted - the Red states out
vote them - and then reds vote to tax blues. Then reds say high
taxes are the blues fault.

The high taxes and the programs are already in place. When
the Reds try to cut either the taxes or the programs, the
Blues and their allies in the MSM squeal like pigs.

But they are out voted.

Not by enough of a majority. The status quo still obtains.

The NeoCons hold the House, the Senate, the
Presidency, and soon the courts. How can you hold anyone but them
responsible for anything you don't like. They can change the laws
today if it suits them. They don't.

There is definitely a split among Republicans between those
who want change and those who don't.

Ted
Kennedy becomes downright porcine - well, even more porcine
than he usually is. The high taxes (perhaps, as you say,
paid disproportionally by the Blue states) and big programs
(again, perhaps disproportionally benefitting the Red
states) are both legacies of the New Deal/Security State
paradigm - not exactly libertarian/conservative ideas.

When can I expect NeoCons to correct this error?

"Neocons" are a small minority among Republicans. They are,
apparently, in favor of the status quo as to domestic
programs - but I really don't know. Is there a "Neocon"
party line on domestic programs. I've never heard of one.

If the Blues would repudiate the high taxes and big
programs, and join the Reds in ditching them, the Blue
staters' complaints about the unfairness of the application
of THEIR ideas would go away.
The Blues don't have to repudiate or join anything. THE NEOCONS HAVE
ALL THE VOTES !!
But I don't expect leftist
"liberals" to start opposing high taxes and big social
programs any time soon. Do you?

No, I don't expect the NeoCons to make any of the changes they have
been preaching about for 50 years. Some how that will be the Liberals
fault, I'm sure.

It will be the fault of everyone who opposes change, whether
"Neocons" or "liberals." But blaming those who do favor
change, when they don't have the votes to make changes,
seems a little disingenuous.

--
Robert Sturgeon
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