Harold and Susan Vordos wrote:
I'm no mathematician, and have a hard time understanding almost all of this
conversation, but to illustrate a point (if only I knew which
one!)---

----the .458 Magnum I own develops 2-1/2 tons of energy at the
muzzle,

Harold, "tons" is not a unit of energy.


assuming a maximum load with a 500 grain bullet. It stands to
reason that there's hardly a man alive that could withstand that force on
his shoulder and survive, let alone still be standing. My rifle does NOT
have a muzzle break, and develops 80 foot pounds of recoil (about triple
that of a 12 gauge shotgun) , at least according to the things I read years
ago. It doesn't knock you down. Not unless you're an idiot. :-(
Please, don't ask.

Harold

I think I'd better kill this thread before I get ingestion from the all
the missuse of terms. :-) :-)
...lew...