My Delta 10" compound miter box died this afternoon. It hadn't even dulled
it's first blade. I think the armature is broken in half. It had been making
strange noises since SWMBO helped me straighten a big pile of cedar shingles.
Cross cutting shingles is heavy work, right. Since my good miter box (Milwaukee
sliding head) was a few blocks away and in the attic of the new house I went
across the street to borrow the neighbors. His was a brand new DeWalt compound
but not sliding and quite nice. When I returned it I mentioned that it was
nearly new. He agreed and said he finally got rid of his POS Ridgid that had
caused so much trouble for several years. I had forgotten about the angle
adjustment problem and agreed he made a wise decision. These are two makes of
tools I really can't warm up to. Bought an older Powermatic 12" planer and 6"
jointer a month or so back and I am in love with them. You can't beat good
heavy old American cast iron when it comes to getting big piles of chips fast.
Leigh

Funny, the saws you mentioned I have owned. The delta 10" was bought for
punch out and the 12" Ridgid for trimming homes. I thought i'd like the
Ridgid, but it has proved to be a POS, especially the clunky blade guard. I
had a garage sale this summer and put a price tag on the thing of $25 with
a NEW BLADE i paid $50 for and no takers. (3 yr old saw). Also have a
Makita 12" slider, It's another POS that couldn't cut square to save my life
and the damn fences will not adjust enough to fix the problem. The 10 Delta
just gave up the ghost one day. The DW 12 CMS is a workhore and probably
the best all around 12" CMS on the market today. The Bosch 4410 (10"
slider) will be replacing all my junker saws soon. I might even set the old
ones out by the curb with a "free" sign just to get 'em outta here! --dave



"CAtruckman" wrote in message
...
My Delta 10" compound miter box died this afternoon. It hadn't even
dulled
it's first blade. I think the armature is broken in half. It had been
making
strange noises since SWMBO helped me straighten a big pile of cedar
shingles.
Cross cutting shingles is heavy work, right. Since my good miter box
(Milwaukee
sliding head) was a few blocks away and in the attic of the new house I
went
across the street to borrow the neighbors. His was a brand new DeWalt
compound
but not sliding and quite nice. When I returned it I mentioned that it was
nearly new. He agreed and said he finally got rid of his POS Ridgid that
had
caused so much trouble for several years. I had forgotten about the angle
adjustment problem and agreed he made a wise decision. These are two
makes of
tools I really can't warm up to. Bought an older Powermatic 12" planer and
6"
jointer a month or so back and I am in love with them. You can't beat good
heavy old American cast iron when it comes to getting big piles of chips
fast.
Leigh

Dave Jackson wrote:
Funny, the saws you mentioned I have owned. The delta 10" was bought for
punch out and the 12" Ridgid for trimming homes. I thought i'd like the
Ridgid, but it has proved to be a POS, especially the clunky blade guard. I

snip

"CAtruckman" wrote in message
He agreed and said he finally got rid of his POS Ridgid that
had
caused so much trouble for several years. I had forgotten about the angle
adjustment problem and agreed he made a wise decision.
snip

Hmm, I have a 12" Ridgid. Now I can't say it has been used heavily;
maybe a 1000 cuts with it (maybe). But you stick stuff under it and it
cuts it off pretty well. Blade guard moves out of the way very well, it
holds an angle OK. Bit too much flex here and there, blade rings like
crazy. I put a zero clearance insert in it, which makes alignment of
cuts much easier as well as cleaner. All in all, not bad value for the
money, IMO. I will admit to not having done crown with it. I will also
admit to not having used any other.

So, is it that I don't know any better, haven't stressed the saw enough,
or something? What angle adjustment problem? What guard problem? I am
genuinely curious, since I have considered upgrading it a few times,
just for more cross cut ability. I will admit, I never use it for
picture framing (not accurate enough or clean enough), so I have run
into so limitations...

PK

"Dave Jackson" wrote in message
nk.net...
Funny, the saws you mentioned I have owned. The delta 10" was bought for
punch out and the 12" Ridgid for trimming homes. I thought i'd like the
Ridgid, but it has proved to be a POS, especially the clunky blade guard.
I had a garage sale this summer and put a price tag on the thing of $25
with a NEW BLADE i paid $50 for and no takers. (3 yr old saw). Also have
a Makita 12" slider, It's another POS that couldn't cut square to save my
life and the damn fences will not adjust enough to fix the problem. The
10 Delta just gave up the ghost one day. The DW 12 CMS is a workhore and
probably the best all around 12" CMS on the market today. The Bosch 4410
(10" slider) will be replacing all my junker saws soon. I might even set
the old ones out by the curb with a "free" sign just to get 'em outta
here! --dave

I bought the DW 12" a few years ago. I was trying to cut some brazilian
cherry at a 45, and every damn time I would get some minute blade flex when
it first hit the wood, so I would end up with a slight step. This is with a
laminate trimming freud teflon coated blade. Any idea what I'm doing wrong?
The guys at wood craft seemed to think it was because the blade was 12
instead of ten.

"mark" wrote in message
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I bought the DW 12" a few years ago. I was trying to cut some brazilian
cherry at a 45, and every damn time I would get some minute blade flex
when it first hit the wood, so I would end up with a slight step. This is
with a laminate trimming freud teflon coated blade. Any idea what I'm
doing wrong? The guys at wood craft seemed to think it was because the
blade was 12 instead of ten.

I am guessing thin kerf blade.

"Leon" wrote in message
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"mark" wrote in message
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I bought the DW 12" a few years ago. I was trying to cut some brazilian
cherry at a 45, and every damn time I would get some minute blade flex
when it first hit the wood, so I would end up with a slight step. This is
with a laminate trimming freud teflon coated blade. Any idea what I'm
doing wrong? The guys at wood craft seemed to think it was because the
blade was 12 instead of ten.

I am guessing thin kerf blade.

Nope, not thin kerf. Maybe too many teeth?

Leon responds:


"mark" wrote in message
...


I bought the DW 12" a few years ago. I was trying to cut some brazilian
cherry at a 45, and every damn time I would get some minute blade flex
when it first hit the wood, so I would end up with a slight step. This is
with a laminate trimming freud teflon coated blade. Any idea what I'm
doing wrong? The guys at wood craft seemed to think it was because the
blade was 12 instead of ten.

I am guessing thin kerf blade.

So am I. There is no need nor any other real point to a thin kerf blade in
short crosscuts.

Charlie Self
"A politician is an animal which can sit on a fence and yet keep both ears to
the ground." H. L. Mencken

"mark" wrote in message
newsqYBd.59602$uM5.18415@bgtnsc05-
I am guessing thin kerf blade.

Nope, not thin kerf. Maybe too many teeth?

No not too any teeth, you can effectively make a blade cut like one with
many more teeth by simply cutting more slowly. If your blade is leaving a
full 1/8" wide cut in the wood then I would suspect the bearings having too
much slop.

I haven't had any problems with my (3 yrs. old and used often) Ridgid as
far as accuracy, but i keep it tuned up. The problem i do have with it is
sometimes when i grab the handle to lower the blade to make the cut, the
mechanism that works the guard binds up, preventing the saw from lowering
into the wood. The guard is just clunky by design. If you check out the
blade guard on a 12" DW MS you'll notice it is attached to metal and the
metal attaches to the saw. The Ridgid is just flimsy plastic. When i
bought the saw, i went in to the borg with full intention of buying the DW.
I just got caught up in the fact that the Ridgid came with a stand for the
same money and went with it. I don't necessarily regret it, but its long
overdue to be replaced with a slider, the Bosch 4410. --dave




"Paul Kierstead" wrote in message
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Dave Jackson wrote:
Funny, the saws you mentioned I have owned. The delta 10" was bought for
punch out and the 12" Ridgid for trimming homes. I thought i'd like the
Ridgid, but it has proved to be a POS, especially the clunky blade guard.
I

snip

"CAtruckman" wrote in message
He agreed and said he finally got rid of his POS Ridgid that had
caused so much trouble for several years. I had forgotten about the
angle
adjustment problem and agreed he made a wise decision.
snip

Hmm, I have a 12" Ridgid. Now I can't say it has been used heavily; maybe
a 1000 cuts with it (maybe). But you stick stuff under it and it cuts it
off pretty well. Blade guard moves out of the way very well, it holds an
angle OK. Bit too much flex here and there, blade rings like crazy. I put
a zero clearance insert in it, which makes alignment of cuts much easier
as well as cleaner. All in all, not bad value for the money, IMO. I will
admit to not having done crown with it. I will also admit to not having
used any other.

So, is it that I don't know any better, haven't stressed the saw enough,
or something? What angle adjustment problem? What guard problem? I am
genuinely curious, since I have considered upgrading it a few times, just
for more cross cut ability. I will admit, I never use it for picture
framing (not accurate enough or clean enough), so I have run into so
limitations...

PK

12" blades to tend to flex more than 10" ones, especially the thin kerf
ones. It is also possible the blade is slightly warped. --dave


"mark" wrote in message
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"Dave Jackson" wrote in message
nk.net...
Funny, the saws you mentioned I have owned. The delta 10" was bought for
punch out and the 12" Ridgid for trimming homes. I thought i'd like the
Ridgid, but it has proved to be a POS, especially the clunky blade guard.
I had a garage sale this summer and put a price tag on the thing of $25
with a NEW BLADE i paid $50 for and no takers. (3 yr old saw). Also
have a Makita 12" slider, It's another POS that couldn't cut square to
save my life and the damn fences will not adjust enough to fix the
problem. The 10 Delta just gave up the ghost one day. The DW 12 CMS is
a workhore and probably the best all around 12" CMS on the market today.
The Bosch 4410 (10" slider) will be replacing all my junker saws soon. I
might even set the old ones out by the curb with a "free" sign just to
get 'em outta here! --dave

I bought the DW 12" a few years ago. I was trying to cut some brazilian
cherry at a 45, and every damn time I would get some minute blade flex
when it first hit the wood, so I would end up with a slight step. This is
with a laminate trimming freud teflon coated blade. Any idea what I'm
doing wrong? The guys at wood craft seemed to think it was because the
blade was 12 instead of ten.