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wood flooring on particle board?
Hello everyone!
I haven't had much luck in getting advice from my local woodfloor seller= = so I was hoping to get some answers here. I'm in a process of a complete reflooring of 3 rooms (about 60m2). = Currently there is a prefinished parquet that was laid about 15 years ag= o. = The floor was installed with no gaps between the rooms and wasn't nailed= = or glued to the subfloor - it is what you would probably refer to as = floating floor. The subfloor is of 25mm particle board on joists which are 60cm appart. = I = don't know how much height difference if any there is between particle = boards. The parquet has started to make terrible squeaking sounds over the years= = which I assume is because of a bad installement that's why I decided to = replace it. I haven't made my decision of which type of wood floor to buy because I = do = not know which would be the most appropriate. Also there is only about a= s = much space for new floor as the old parquet thickness is (about 12mm), s= o = I guess solid hardwood parquet is out of a question. I was leaning more = towards the prefinished hardwood (not laminate) floor. But I don't know = if = it is suitable for this type of subfloor. So I would like to hear your advice on what would be best to buy? Thank you for your help! J.J. |
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wood flooring on particle board?
I just got done installing a solid 3/4" hardwood floor. Everybody,
manufacturers gurus on the web, recommend ripping out the particle board subfloor and replacing it with plywood. You need a minimum of 3/4" thick plywood to install a solid hardwood floor. I had to rip out 5/8" particle board which was installed over 1/2" plywood. I replaced the particle board with 5/8" plywood when combined with the 1/2" lower plywood gave me an effective 1 1/8" subfloor. The gurus say that a good subfloor is needed for stiffness and for nail holding power or you will end up with a lot of squeaks from the nails getting loose and the wood moving against each other. Installing a hardwood floor is a pile of work - removing moldings, ripping out the particle board, getting the subfloor flat, installing the plywood, undercutting door jambs, installing the wood floor, replacing and fixing the moldings, adding quarter rounds to the moldings, adding thresholds etc. for transistions to other floors. I know, I just got done with two rooms. Also, solid hardwood floor labor costs are about $5/sq. ft.. Solid hardwood floor is about $5/sq. ft.. So prepping the subfloor properly is needed to avoid having a squeaky floor. Also, new plywood and the new floor lumber needs to be acclimated in your house for a week or two before installation or you can end up with a cupped and warped floor. Note. www.hardwoodinstaller.com ?? link is a great resource. Also do a search on installing hardwood floors. There are some good webpages out there. Dandelion77 |
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wood flooring on particle board?
IMO, particle board is not a good subfloor for hardwood flooring. I'm
not a flooring installer, but I have installed my own engineered flooring made by Bruce. It is 3/8" thick (app 10mm for those across the pond) and is was prefinished. I ripped up all of the old subflooring and put down a layer of 5/8" plywood with construction adhesive and screws. Then on top of that is a layer of 3/8" underlayment, with glue and screws again. (Overkill?? Maybe) It is as solid feeling as concrete. Do it right regarding the subfloor and get rid up the old stuff. Mark × Jure.J × wrote: Hello everyone! I haven't had much luck in getting advice from my local woodfloor seller so I was hoping to get some answers here. I'm in a process of a complete reflooring of 3 rooms (about 60m2). Currently there is a prefinished parquet that was laid about 15 years ago. The floor was installed with no gaps between the rooms and wasn't nailed or glued to the subfloor - it is what you would probably refer to as floating floor. The subfloor is of 25mm particle board on joists which are 60cm appart. I don't know how much height difference if any there is between particle boards. The parquet has started to make terrible squeaking sounds over the years which I assume is because of a bad installement that's why I decided to replace it. I haven't made my decision of which type of wood floor to buy because I do not know which would be the most appropriate. Also there is only about as much space for new floor as the old parquet thickness is (about 12mm), so I guess solid hardwood parquet is out of a question. I was leaning more towards the prefinished hardwood (not laminate) floor. But I don't know if it is suitable for this type of subfloor. So I would like to hear your advice on what would be best to buy? Thank you for your help! J.J. |
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wood flooring on particle board?
Thank you for your replies.
Ripping out the particle board unfortunately is not an option. What would be the second best thing in this case then? Thanks! J.J. |
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wood flooring on particle board?
I was in your position about 3 years ago, I wanted hardwood floors but had
the particle subfloor. The expense involved in replacing the particle board was too much, so we settled on laminate ie pergo. Its held up fine and haven't had any scratches or chip outs. As a previous poster mentioned you should also look at the engineered hardwood, I believe it uses the same floating floor concept as laminates. " Jure.J " wrote: : Thank you for your replies. : Ripping out the particle board unfortunately is not an option. : What would be the second best thing in this case then? : Thanks! : J.J. |
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