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TOBACCO CURING KILN



 
 
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Old May 6th 05, 08:54 AM
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Says it's for curing tobacco. Somehow I feel that most people who
make one will be using it for curing pot instead.



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Old May 6th 05, 10:48 PM
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Could be, has a lock....


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Old May 7th 05, 02:49 PM
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Taking it at their word that it is for tobacco.....

It is not the curing of tobacco that is the problem, it is the taxes on the
pack of cigarettes.

Back about 50 years ago, I remember my Dad and Uncle having a flimsy metal
device sold by Bugle Boy Tobacco company that rolled cigarettes some what
close to un-filtered cigarettes. Bugle Boy sold tins of loose tobacco,
which did not have the "cigarette" tax. The user loaded up the tobacco,
placed a cigarette paper on the top and rotated the handle, and out popped
an un-filtered cigarette.

There was a elliptical form in the center about 4 to 5 inches side to side
and slightly deeper than a cigarette, a thin leather belt over the top, and
a lever hinged to the center, and it would swing side to side in a circular
arc under the leather belt. The lever had a dowel running front to back
under the belt. With the lever to one side, the elliptical shape of the
molding form and slack in the belt allowed the user to load up tobacco (on
the belt) between the dowel and the form. As the handle is rotated the
tobacco becomes tighter, and rounded in shape due to elliptical shape of
form and the circular path of the dowel. At the highest point in the path
of the lever, and the top of the form, a cigarette paper is placed on the
belt to get rolled up around the tobacco. With practice, a tight packed
cigarette which allowed a slower burn could be made.

Yes, I know I cannot describe it clearly in a text only format NG, and I am
working from just memory, but maybe you can get an idea of what I am talking
about.

Now, if someone were to come up with a woodworking design for a cigarette
roller.
- Pipe tobacco I think can be shipped across state lines.
- In my state, I think the law is you cannot sell cigarettes without paying
the taxes. You can roll your own legally.
- I keep hearing the rumor that the material to make cigarettes and cost of
manufacturing, transportation, and retail store profit is less than 40 or 50
cents.
- The rest is taxes. Sin Taxes.

Just to stir the kettle.

Phil

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Old May 7th 05, 03:57 PM
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Don't know if it's that low but close. They will keep taxing it until their
tax base dries up and it starts costing the tax payers money. When taxes get
high enough on it, there will be large scale tobacco smuggling. The majority
will be buying illegal tobacco thus not paying taxes. Law enforcement will
spent time trying to catch tobacco smugglers. That will cost money. The huge
amount of revenue generated now from tobacco taxes will have to be made up
for somehow so other taxes will go up. Any time I run into one of these anti
tobacco zealots, I ask him how much he is willing to pay to get people to
quit smoking. Few have thought this through.

"Another Phil" NoSpamming@one two three four five.com wrote in message
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- I keep hearing the rumor that the material to make cigarettes and cost

of
manufacturing, transportation, and retail store profit is less than 40 or

50
cents.
- The rest is taxes. Sin Taxes.

Just to stir the kettle.

Phil

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Old May 7th 05, 05:21 PM
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In article , NoSpamming@one
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Back about 50 years ago, I remember my Dad and Uncle having a flimsy metal
device sold by Bugle Boy Tobacco company that rolled cigarettes some what
close to un-filtered cigarettes. Bugle Boy sold tins of loose tobacco,

They were still around 20 years ago or so. I had one, but used pipe
tobacco (string cut) instead of the BB cigarette tobacco.

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Old May 9th 05, 01:09 PM
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Tobacco is the only thing I can thing of that a person would want to
throw in a drying kiln, and then only if it was going to be used for
cigarettes. Most forms of tobacco are still moist when consumed. The
only other types of plant matter that a person might want to dry are
cooking herbs.

Back about 50 years ago, I remember my Dad and Uncle having a flimsy metal
device sold by Bugle Boy Tobacco company that rolled cigarettes some what
close to un-filtered cigarettes. Bugle Boy sold tins of loose tobacco,
which did not have the "cigarette" tax. The user loaded up the tobacco,
placed a cigarette paper on the top and rotated the handle, and out popped
an un-filtered cigarette.


Those are still around at any given tobacco shop. I haven't smoked in
a couple of years, but I used to roll my own when I did. Zig-zag and
Drum make rollers that are a piece of clear plastic with two bends in
it, with two plastic rollers. There is a small (perhaps vinyl?) mat
that goes over the two rollers that you use to roll the smoke. To
operate the little gadget, you put the tobacco in between the rollers
on the mat and give it a spin with your finger tips, then place the
ungummed side of the paper between the rollers, dampen the gum, and
roll it up. Easiest thing there is. There are a bunch of loose
tobacco brands that are still around- my favorite was American Spirit,
but Drum, Bugle Boy, Velvet, Top, Borkum Riff and Caloise are all over
the place. You only pay the tax for one pack of tobacco for an entire
can, so a carton and a half of hand-rolled cigarettes (used to, who
knows what it is now) came out to about $11- and that was for the
premium stuff in the metal cans. The crap like Top and Velvet was
only a couple of bucks.

They also make machines at that work on the same principle, but use
empty cigarette paper tubes with fiters pre-attached that are pulled
over the rolled tobacco.

Now, if someone were to come up with a woodworking design for a cigarette
roller.


Not worth the effort, really. The plastic ones only cost a couple of
bucks. While it might be kind of neat to make your own, the problem
with all of them is that the rolling mat has a tendancy to split in
the middle of the seam after a while, so it really kind of makes more
sense to simply have a disposable one.

- Pipe tobacco I think can be shipped across state lines.


Any tobacco can be shipped across state lines. I knew some folks who
used to buy American Spirit in 50lb. bales and keep it in thier chest
freezer. It was shipped from Arizona to Wisconsin and not a single
eyebrow was raised. You can also order most tobacco products online,
including the really hard-to-find stuff like hard snuff (spit-less
chewing tobacco that tastes and smells like breath mints) as well as
cigarettes and cigars. Camel also used to ship entire free cartons to
people on their mailing lists when they introduced new products.

FWIW, don't roll pipe tobacco into cigarettes and expect a good
result. It is way too moist, and has a rather high sulfur content.
The only stuff that works when it's rolled is Borkum Riff.

- In my state, I think the law is you cannot sell cigarettes without paying
the taxes. You can roll your own legally.


I doubt you can resell any of it anywhere in the US without a proper
license. Buying it is a whole different thing, though.

- I keep hearing the rumor that the material to make cigarettes and cost of
manufacturing, transportation, and retail store profit is less than 40 or 50
cents.
- The rest is taxes. Sin Taxes.


Yep. And this is the country that fought the British over a minor tax
on tea. But what are you going to do about it?

Just to stir the kettle.


I don't know if you succeeded or not, but I'd figure I'd fill in the
details for any of the smokers on the list. I don't smoke anymore
because my wife had to quit (asthma), but I still think that the taxes
the health nuts put on it are criminal. Rolling your own really is
the way to go if a guy wants to save money. Some of the hand-rolleds
are additive free as well- which doesn't make them good for you, but
it may well make them less bad for you.


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